poblequadrat Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) In the song Die Stimme der Energie, Kraftwerk use vocoders so that who sings isn't a human being but technology itself. Front 242 did a similar thing in their track Red Team, where the impossibly low-pitched voice might be the voice of the Cold War, or the state, or something similar. Right now I have an idea for a "pop" track with vocals about the virtues of Haussmannian planning. And I wonder what kinds of techniques would let one have a human voice sound not like some guy singing about what he likes, but as the voice of an individual instance of a collective ideal. I wonder if some manipulation is actually needed... maybe a cold, loud delivery should be enough, but I don't know. I'd like to make it sound both human and inhuman at the same time, a bit like the voice of Jacobin ruthlessness. There are examples of untreated, "inhuman" vocals in early British synthpop and in Dopplereffektian electro, but they sound alienated and paranoid, and sometimes menacing, rather than positive. So, do you have any examples of manipulated vocals or of inhuman delivery you particularly like? Also, feel free to disregard my question and just post about vocoders and stuff. Edited August 2, 2014 by poblequadrat Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I've always had a soft spot for vocals ran through rotary speakers. This is he only example I could think of at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O63COyZlTyU Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2195746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 The Books' line "I feel a collective rumbling in America" always gives me chills. [YouTube]kZ9W_JZp4EE[/YouTube] Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2195775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gravity Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 On 8/2/2014 at 2:46 PM, Gocab said: I've always had a soft spot for vocals ran through rotary speakers. This is he only example I could think of at the moment. You'd probably like this track. (wish i had something to add pobs... i am a huge sucker for all sorts of manipulated vocals though.) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2195782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 http://youtu.be/y0LF6WA9rxI Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2195787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) http://youtu.be/SigwULfpW-I?t=3m42s @ 3:42 is this just good use of pitch shifting or what Edited August 2, 2014 by Ragnar Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2195831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
th555 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 This right here from the movie Scanners (where it's already manipulated). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide th555's signature Hide all signatures https://www.youtube.com/user/THkaas/videos https://thisjepisje.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/th555 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2195836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Not too manipulated as such, but 3:55 onwards creeps me out like nothing else Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2196052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmbf44 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Pretty standard vocoding but I really dig this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzstD9U6lvU Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2196288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 whoops, fucked up the youtubes (books - be good to them always) also stockhausen duh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XfeWp2y1Lk Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2196311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 ethnopoetics are a great source for all kind of vocal manipulations..check out those throats..like autechre unplugged http://ubu.com/ethno/soundings/inuit.html Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://ubumexico.centro.org.mx/sound/ethno/inuit/mp3/Inuit-Throat-Singing_06.mp3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2196324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbrmyofr Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Can't beat the EMS 2000: https://soundcloud.com/splitradix/spookyspansnippet Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Rbrmyofr's signature Hide all signatures https://splitradix.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2196343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted August 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 it's a cool thread in the end isn't it! lots of great examples. stockhausen is fucking awesome, hadn't listened to that one since i was like 17... i think maybe a good way would be to make the voice sound like a sample of someone speaking, not as a direct sung presence. i think this is what film samples on industrial records do sometimes, and probably why kraftwerk speak rhythmically rather than sing. i'll share any findings if i don't give up and sell my synths and drop out and go back to my parents'. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2198542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
th555 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 On 8/4/2014 at 5:46 AM, jmbf44 said: Pretty standard vocoding but I really dig this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzstD9U6lvU This is an awesome track man. Reminds me of this one by Bola: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide th555's signature Hide all signatures https://www.youtube.com/user/THkaas/videos https://thisjepisje.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/th555 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2198673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 This is mostly vocals: https://soundcloud.com/william-s-braintree/bodily-functions Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84340-manipulated-voices/#findComment-2198785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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