Guest brendyman Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I've recently become obsessed with the idea of building my own analog synthesizer. However, I have zero experience in electronics, so I'm starting from the very beginning, messing around with LEDs, 555 timers, and breadboards to get a hang of some basic electronic principles before I move on to some more complex stuff. Once I get that stuff down I'm going to give this a shot: http://musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth_new/ALIENSCREAMER/ALIENSCREAMER.php ...and then hopefully move onwards and upwards from there. I've never owned a hardware synth before, and the idea of the first one I own being one I built is pretty cool to me, even if it's extremely simple. Have any of you guys built any of your own gear? Effects pedals? Instruments? Edited September 14, 2014 by brendyman Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 You might want to start off with reading these: Make: Electronics Make: Analog Synthesizers (by Ray Wilson, who you just linked to) Then you might want to progress to the entirety of this: Electronotes: Everything Package Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I started out building guitar pedals from complete kits, like tremolos, compressors, etc. Check out http://buildyourownclone.com, for instance.The simpler pedals can usually be built in an evening, even when you have no prior experience. It can be a bit frustrating at first when stuff doesn't work. The initial challenge is getting good at the actual soldering, it's easy to make shorts and cold solders, which leads to all sorts of malfunctions. Another challenge is getting to know the different kinds of components, that some have polarity, etc. Troubleshooting really does not seem like fun at first, but it very is satisfactory having spent those frustrating hours once you get something to work. And the experience definitely pays off later. I had a x0xb0x kit laying around that felt a bit too daunting with several hundred parts, some SMP soldering, etc. I didn't really dare to begin building it, but when I saw the TTSH announcement last year I figured I could use the x0xb0x kit to measure if there was any hope of ever completing a TTSH. The x0xb0x was a raging success, everything worked perfectly on the first power-up, which was a surprise after around 50 hours of buidling. That was a weird feeling, I was sure I'd have to spend 10-20 hours of troubleshooting. The home made synth even sounded better than the pre-built x0xb0x I had from before. So I jumped on the opportunity to get the TTSH kit last December, and built in once all parts arrived in March. Since it was such a big and quite expensive kit I figured I wanted to be very anal about keeping track of the progress and the parts, etc. I made lists of every part that went into every module, etc, and crossed them out once I had soldered them in place. Once again I feared having to spend tens of hours troubleshooting at the end, but I managed to build it all in 40+ hours, and had just a few hours of troubleshooting afterwards. So I guess the book keeping paid off. And the resulting synthesizer is just fantastic! To ZoeB's recommendations I can add : Handmade Electronic Music: The Art of Hardware Hacking If you wanna design your own circuits the CMOS chips are a good way to get sequencers and logic stuff going: CMOS Cookbook Integrated Circuit 555 Projects Also, Thomas Henry's stuff is worth having a look at, drum synthesis, oscillators, etc. http://www.magsmoke.com/thomas_henry_books.asp http://www.birthofasynth.com/Thomas_Henry/TH_main.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I have no experience, but I'm trying to learn programming so I can make my dream synth. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brendyman Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 On 9/14/2014 at 11:03 AM, psn said: Also, Thomas Henry's stuff is worth having a look at, drum synthesis, oscillators, etc. http://www.magsmoke.com/thomas_henry_books.asp http://www.birthofasynth.com/Thomas_Henry/TH_main.html Oh man, that Thomas Henry Design Index is going to come in so handy...thanks for that. Also, the TTSH looks awesome! I bet that was an awesome feeling when it worked exactly like it was supposed to. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klopjob Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Listen to Zoe, she's an amazing at that stuff Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 On 9/14/2014 at 12:07 PM, Chartreuse said: Listen to Zoe, she's an amazing at that stuff As a disclaimer, I should probably point out I haven't read any of these books, and I also haven't made any electronics. I just write software and, lately, firmware. I would ask Nina which books she'd recommend, but she's a bit preoccupied right now with soldering so I won't bother her. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 hi yep - ive built a large modular system and various desktop synths and effects mfos is a good start as they are nice boards to solder and ray documents his builds well. i would not recommend getting into large projects like ttsh, however a x0xb0x is a good project - well documented and well supported when you begin building it helps to be in a community who you can ask questions as problems are inevitable. if you want to build modular you should start up an account at muffwiggler as the diy section is a good resource and full of people who will help you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 On 9/14/2014 at 11:38 AM, poblequadrat said: I have no experience, but I'm trying to learn programming so I can make my dream synth. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 war horn in grade 7 (can be heard on Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag this olllllddd track) sound generator in highschool electronics class analog synth in college (not from kit, just random wiring i had lying around so it was kinda ruff) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klopjob Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 On 9/14/2014 at 12:14 PM, ZoeB said: On 9/14/2014 at 12:07 PM, Chartreuse said: Listen to Zoe, she's an amazing at that stuff As a disclaimer, I should probably point out I haven't read any of these books, and I also haven't made any electronics. I just write software and, lately, firmware. I would ask Nina which books she'd recommend, but she's a bit preoccupied right now with soldering so I won't bother her. Oh! Well it's cool what you both compose with hardware, can't wait for more! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 built a few analog things in various workshops, but have no real knowledge of electronics circuits... I guess the real fun starts when you get to design your own things.. Definitely want to learn this stuff at some point! But I feel like, unlike programming, it's somewhat necessary to have a mentor for this... and with programming it turns out that I have a higher interest in developing things for others than for myself primarily.. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAAAh Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 hello yes i'v made a few kits and designed quite a lot ofbits and bobs read and do really, same as learning anything. " But I feel like, unlike programming, it's somewhat necessary to have a mentor for this..." funny bcos ifeel the oposite. electronics is fairly intuitive and easy to learn myself, but programing i feel i need someone to teach me. it goes straight over my head. Good site: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/ Good book for total beginers: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Make-Electronics-Discovery-Charles-Platt/dp/0596153740 good book for project ideas: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Projects-Musicians-Anderton/dp/0825695023 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide AAAAh's signature Hide all signatures triachus yelling AAAA really straings the voice, and the tiny h really represents the struggle and hardship a vocal chord must endure for yelling AAAA http://i.imgur.com/jXQiEuU.jpg Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I build stuff. Send me a message if you want to chat y'know. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I've made a lot of stuff digitally, I want to make my own software modular synth at some point but I need to learn all the bullshit that goes into making a proper VST sometime, I get caught up on the stuff that has nothing to do with the actual coding, like whatever making it interface with windows so I stick to ReaJS atm. But ReaJS is pretty fucking slow and even slower in Buzz where I could make a bunch of stuff in ReaJS to /act/ as modules. But I'm not really into crazy FFT stuff either, I just want to be able to work more with strange tuning and other things. Honestly I find myself being able to make most of the sounds I want to make, but every once in a while I wish I could put in as many chorus effects as I wanted or some minor limitation like that but hardware-wise I'm poor and afraid of soldering it does intrigue me tho with analog stuff, how a 6db filter is never /exactly/ 6db and stuff? Like you could get a more personal sound by tweaking it this way or that or partially by accident? i did do some minor circuit bending but again I can't solder so I couldn't make permanent setups. I got a kinda cool distortion/clipping on an SK-1 one time and that was when I ruined it by TRYING to solder. That 'no way' sound on Ablum is a Mighty Megamouth, where I found the part of the circuit that modulates the pitch and made it go haywire Edited September 14, 2014 by Ragnar Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I actually made some decent circuit bending sounds around this time, like I think that crazy distorted psuedo-acidline on Alpha Mango Foxtrot is a circuit bending sound with bass boost on it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TongueAndGroove Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 You should check out some of the Mutable instruments Kits, http://mutable-instruments.net/ They are brilliantly designed, pretty easy to put together and you learn a load olong the way, the forums are also really helpful. Best of all they sound fat, - analogue filters and envelopes and a mix of digital and analog VCOs depending on which you go for. I've built mosy of what they have on offer, as well as a few by other manufacturers such as the Preen FM, Xoxbox next up... then maybe a Midibox SID... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I started building a theremin years ago but lost motivation (and a few parts from the kit) so never ended up finishing it. I should get into making things again. I think I'm more interested in creating weird acoustic instruments these days though—I've got tons of homemade bits of electronic gear lying around already (made by others). I think my first project will be to rig up one of my guitar amps with a frame that can hold a tuned array of guitar strings in front of the speaker for sympathetic harmonic sounds (maybe with a pickup involved as well?). Not sure if it'd work but it'll be fun to attempt! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2220974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbreaker Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 On 9/14/2014 at 11:03 AM, psn said: To ZoeB's recommendations I can add : Handmade Electronic Music: The Art of Hardware Hacking Just wanted to second this recommendation! While maybe less good as a reference text, in terms of just being full of motivating and fun/simple projects this book is great. Leafcutter John even did the hard work of collecting a parts list for the book http://leafcutterjohn.com/?p=1058 If you work through every project in this book you should know a lot more about electronics and probably start having some interesting ideas for your own builds and/or enough soldering experience to feel confident in building someone else's kits. One more small point: the kits from http://bleeplabs.com/ are great and I did about 2-3 of them before picking up that book. The nebulophone was my first soldering project and is very approachable//sounds great :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cloudbreaker's signature Hide all signatures Bad Business means Good Art Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2223611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's also worth noting you can download some pretty interesting and largely expired patents. For example: Harald Bode John M. Chowning Ikutaro Kakehashi Robert A. Moog Plus Ralph Dyck, Constant Martin, Thomas E. Oberheim, Alan Richard Pearlman, Raymond Scott, Ampex, Casio, Korg, Roland (Kakehashi again), Yamaha, etc. Just bear in mind a given person's name might be misspelt or listed in a different order. Interestingly, pulse-code modulation was invented way back for telegraphs. Fourier was dealing with heat. It's amazing what different industries things are applicable to that you wouldn't think of. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ZoeB's signature Hide all signatures http://www.zoeblade.com On 5/13/2015 at 9:59 PM, rekosn said: zoe is a total afx scholar Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2223675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brendyman Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Well, I just finished building a (very) simple little synth using a 555 timer. I screwed up a few times along the way, but now I have experience making/reading schematics and soldering and all that good stuff. Now onto a bigger project. http://imgur.com/a/2keVn Thanks for all the resources too! I'm definitely going to be using a lot of these. Edited September 21, 2014 by brendyman Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2224683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAAAh Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Nice one! 555 oscs are the perfect project for starting out. Make a atari punk thing next, they sound like shit! http://www.magicmess.co.uk/electronics/apc.php Here's mine: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide AAAAh's signature Hide all signatures triachus yelling AAAA really straings the voice, and the tiny h really represents the struggle and hardship a vocal chord must endure for yelling AAAA http://i.imgur.com/jXQiEuU.jpg Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/84914-anyone-here-have-any-experience-building-their-own-instruments-electronic-or-otherwise/#findComment-2224801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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