J3FF3R00 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) I feel like it's not getting enough talk around here. Lets talk about it. This one is probably my favorite on Syro. It gets stuck in my head the most, next to 180db_. Everything about this track jams. I think it's possibly the most accessible, most danceable and one of the most melodic, for sure. Those b-boy break beats and that bass make me rock the fuck out , wherever I am when I hear it. There really is nothing wrong with this one. No miss. All killer. I personally think this one must be one of the oldest compositions from the LP. It strongly reminds me of ICBYD or The RDJ Album, in terms of melody. It has that whimsical, but bittersweet sound. I can't stop listening to it. Great fucking tune. A total classic. Edited September 25, 2014 by J3FF3R00 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 pineal mix and earth portal mix sort of go hand in hand to me. like the aphex tracks in the style of classic 90s drum n bass. where earth portal is more focused on the whole sound of 90s jungle (bass tones, samples etc.) pineal mix sounds a bit more loose, with the real simple cut up break over the loose acid/chords jamming. it's a great track, sits nicely toward the end of the album:) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 lel, 180db and papat4 are the tracks I don't like, funny. but yeah sounds cool but nothing interesting for me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 180db isn't so much a 'filler' track. or it is? it's like a filler track in that it's just one riff (to varying degrees) looped over a beat. which feels like a filler compared to the intricacies of the rest of the album. it's like, when you get to 180db in album listening you can let you brain switch off a little and enjoy the beat/synth riff. it's a filler, but it's a great fun filler :) papat4 is kind of similar but has alllllooot more going on with the revolving acid bass synths and synth melodies:) (but still a fairly straight track (in comparison to the other tracks)) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 6:08 AM, bitroast said: 180db isn't so much a 'filler' track. or it is? it's like a filler track in that it's just one riff (to varying degrees) looped over a beat. which feels like a filler compared to the intricacies of the rest of the album. it's like, when you get to 180db in album listening you can let you brain switch off a little and enjoy the beat/synth riff. it's a filler, but it's a great fun filler :) papat4 is kind of similar but has alllllooot more going on with the revolving acid bass synths and synth melodies:) (but still a fairly straight track (in comparison to the other tracks)) this. i couldn't explain it any better. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flim Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) It's a really great track, one of my favorites. It's not as complex or interesting as any of the other tracks, but it's a real banger with a lush bassline. It is very danceable, and I'd imagine it would go over well live. Edited September 25, 2014 by flim Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide flim's signature Hide all signatures Hmm..... Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 yeah, the track has really grown on me. I didn't love it initially because it felt like it sort of stopped without going anywhere. it took me a few listens to realise that wasn't true, its just got a tad more of a limited sound palette going on then the other tracks. papat4 is definitely dense and interesting. but it seems to be intentionally limited and stripped back. achieve a lot with a little, kind of deal :) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Earth Portal mix sounds a lot more like tracks 6-9 to me (made more recently with a similar style in mind). PApat 4 and 180b still haven't caught on for me. Parts of papat are awesomeedit: I think 180db fits more smoothly in the flow of the album, it marks a shift towards what sound like a whole different RDJ style than the post-tuss style of tracks 1-4. Then we get a drastically different RDJ style for 6-9, but for me the transition from Syrou47 to Papat and then to S950 feels wrong. I get that Papat and S950 are similar old school jungle tracks in different ways, but Papat feels much older to me, and S950 sounds like it belongs more in the 6-9 stretch Edited September 25, 2014 by John Ehrlichman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eh Speedy Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yup PAPAT4 is the best thing on there full stop. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide eh Speedy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whylessness Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 6:48 AM, SPD² said: Yup PAPAT4 is the best thing on there full stop. PAPAT4 is love Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Was my favorite during first listen, now it's syrobonkus. But yeah, still lovin' this track. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cult fiction Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) On 9/25/2014 at 6:43 AM, John Ehrlichman said: Earth Portal mix sounds a lot more like tracks 6-9 to me (made more recently with a similar style in mind). PApat 4 and 180b still haven't caught on for me. Parts of papat are awesome edit: I think 180db fits more smoothly in the flow of the album, it marks a shift towards what sound like a whole different RDJ style than the post-tuss style of tracks 1-4. Then we get a drastically different RDJ style for 6-9, but for me the transition from Syrou47 to Papat and then to S950 feels wrong. I get that Papat and S950 are similar old school jungle tracks in different ways, but Papat feels much older to me, and S950 sounds like it belongs more in the 6-9 stretch It's true but sequencing wise I think papat helps break up the incredibly dense new tracks with something a bit sparser and easier to digest. Had the whole album been chronological which we can guess at via when the songs premiered live it would have been something like 180db minipops 4 bit 9d produk 29 (just guessing???) XMAS PAPAT4 then the new tracks which wouldn't have flowed* nearly as well Edited September 25, 2014 by cult fiction Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 a strong one for me too. on first listen it reminded me of when i heard Oversteps for the first time and fell in love with known(1). i'd say it's either this or XMAS_EVE, though i'll be adjusting myself to the hard insane tracks like earth portal and the CIRCLONTAS in the days ahead. jesus, it's like drukqs all over again, being able to hear a track over and over and still not understand half of it, but loving every second... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dragon's signature Hide all signatures faith <3 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 if you don't like PAPAT4 you aren't listening to the bass line. I mean I know the chords and drums are distracting, but the bass line is funky as fuck. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Also, those ambient synth pads are gorgeous. They just get better and better as the song goes on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 8:32 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said: if you don't like PAPAT4 Syro you aren't listening to the bass lines. I mean I know the chords and drums are distracting, but the bass lines are funky as fuck. fixed? maybe? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Pure magic. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 6:53 AM, whylessness said: On 9/25/2014 at 6:48 AM, SPD² said: Yup PAPAT4 is the best thing on there full stop. PAPAT4 is love 2014's Polynomial C... pretty perfect track, definitely one of my very fav off Syro. I love all the tunes but both CIRCLONT (nicely crafted ones though). What a fantastic album. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Nil's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Atom Dowry Firth Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Almost made a thread about this track yesterday. The OP would have basically just been this On 9/18/2014 at 4:58 PM, Brian Dance said: PAPAT4 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transmisiones ferox Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yeah amazing track, those drums are amazon, just inhumanly amazing, like if someone would transform "4" in some kind of futuristic robot Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikkio Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I love it, and i just discovered that Papat means four in javanese. So pineal! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertsk8er419 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 12:09 PM, PikkioMania said: I love it, and i just discovered that Papat means four in javanese. So pineal! interesting papat4 44 8 richards birthpath number zomg Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide vertsk8er419's signature Hide all signatures youtube • last.fm Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 12:15 PM, impotentwhitecapitalist said: On 9/25/2014 at 12:09 PM, PikkioMania said: I love it, and i just discovered that Papat means four in javanese. So pineal! interesting papat4 44 8 richards birthpath number zomg its twice as much 4 than "4". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) its a nice floaty airy track thats reminiscent of some of RDJ's earlier tracks how can you like ye olde aphex and not like this track? Edited September 25, 2014 by triachus Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bitroast Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 On 9/25/2014 at 12:36 PM, triachus said: its a nice floaty airy track thats reminiscent of some of RDJ's earlier tracks how can you like ye olde aphex and not like this track? I didnt like it for a bit.. Was a bit too stop / start-y for me at first. Good groove good groove good groove aaand Stop!! etc. But overtime i learnt its ins and outs amd really dig itnow :) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/85082-papat4-pineal-mix-%E2%80%A6-155/#findComment-2228219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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