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I'm not sure if this thread will lead to any major realizations but here's the thing:

I've been working on a bunch of abstract noise and ambient stuff and one thing that I've had trouble with was recreating the sounds of certain materials. Metal is pretty easy to recreate, with some short reverb or Xor distortions, but as for wood ceramics and plastic I'm pretty much clueless.

Do any of you have experience with this, or any stories to share?

  On 12/11/2014 at 2:11 PM, Verdant Hickies said:

I'm not sure if this thread will lead to any major realizations but here's the thing:

I've been working on a bunch of abstract noise and ambient stuff and one thing that I've had trouble with was recreating the sounds of certain materials. Metal is pretty easy to recreate, with some short reverb or Xor distortions, but as for wood ceramics and plastic I'm pretty much clueless.

Do any of you have experience with this, or any stories to share?

Why don't you use a mic to sample the sounds you want?

This is pretty interesting stuff, though I'm unsure if there are any software releases making use of the concept beyond acoustic drum modelling etc..

Quick google for modal synthesis comes back with a bunch of academic papers, interesting but not much use.

Otherwise, I guess physical modelling will give you some cool results, quite a few cool vsts about.. I've not used it yet, but Kaivo from Madrona looks especially cool:

http://madronalabs.com/products/kaivo

Also, might work out well since it uses a granular sampler as it's main impulse source, so you could maybe start with a recording of the material you want the characteristics of, and go from there.

  On 12/12/2014 at 1:05 AM, Danny O Flannagin said:

 

Why don't you use a mic to sample the sounds you want?

 

Boring, I think doing it the modular way would give more interesting results, as it's more customizable.

  On 12/12/2014 at 4:42 AM, TechDiff said:

This is pretty interesting stuff, though I'm unsure if there are any software releases making use of the concept beyond acoustic drum modelling etc..

 

 

Quick google for modal synthesis comes back with a bunch of academic papers, interesting but not much use.

 

Otherwise, I guess physical modelling will give you some cool results, quite a few cool vsts about.. I've not used it yet, but Kaivo from Madrona looks especially cool:

 

http://madronalabs.com/products/kaivo

 

Also, might work out well since it uses a granular sampler as it's main impulse source, so you could maybe start with a recording of the material you want the characteristics of, and go from there.

This is very cool, thanks a lot, top post!

Chromaphone is what you wanting. Try and look past the cheesiness and check out the demo here of all the stuff it can do-

  On 12/12/2014 at 9:54 AM, Verdant Hickies said:

 

  On 12/12/2014 at 1:05 AM, Danny O Flannagin said:

 

Why don't you use a mic to sample the sounds you want?

 

Boring, I think doing it the modular way would give more interesting results, as it's more customizable.

I can see how you'd have total control over a sound if you synthesize it but samples are also very malleable

  On 12/12/2014 at 12:12 PM, mcbpete said:

Chromaphone is what you wanting. Try and look past the cheesiness and check out the demo here of all the stuff it can do-

 

This is pretty insane! Want.

Some physical modelling stuff in Reaktor too - Steampipe comes to mind.

tassman used to be good for physical modelling, dunno if it is still actively developed? ( https://www.applied-acoustics.com/tassman/overview/ )

I tried Tassman a bunch of times and it sounds great, but for me it was a little like a Kyma.. weird/archaic programming interface to get your head around.

I got Kaivo a week ago, good stuff.

I'm probably wrong but isn't Chromaphone the physical modelling bits from Tassman made into an instrument?

Possibly - Its by the same folks so probably grabs most of the physical modelling algorithms present in it. I guess it's akin to the separate instruments Native Instruments sell that were made from Reaktor.