La Monte Young, Parmegiani, Stockhausen - hits/misses

been dipping my toes in among compositions of Mr Young's compositions, following on from deep immersion in Parmegiani's & Stockhousen's works,,,,,,,

 

La Monte Young's vinyl releases seem spread out among a few core lp's & then various catalogs of compilations. I'm loving the aura & weight of the,,,,,how can i put it,,,,,"tone-scapes" he managed to create.

 

Does anyone have any gems they like/love/prefer from this triumvirate of talent? Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

I used to be really into this one:

http://www.discogs.com/John-Cale-Tony-Conrad-Angus-MacLise-La-Monte-Young-Marian-Zazeela-Inside-The-Dream-Syndicate-Volume-/master/46215

And of course the Well Tuned Piano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn2CJmFrUmU

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXGxWqeNfY

As far as Bernard goes, I only know De Natura Sonorum, which is great. Can't say a lot about Stockhausen besides his obvious stuff.

I do wonder why you picked these three in particular, as there are loads of similar artists in the same alley I'd say?

My education with experimental classical music was a late addition in life, so i guess the key word here is provenance,,,,,,,,,

 

Been a huge Coil/TPS/Cyclobe fan and when i 1st heard LM Young it reminded me so much of the Time Machines release Coil put out a decade or more ago. Along similar lines was a Russki composer called Eduard Artemyev, who did the soundtrack for Tarkovsky's epic sci-fi flick Solyaris.

 

From there i picked up an lp of Russian composers working on the ANS-synth in Moscow, found a track called "Sacrament" by Oleg Buloshkin and then heard some bits & bobs by Lawrence English, namely a track called "Inside From Above".

 

So its like a revised take on older influences that shaped a lot of electronic music today, whether the original sources were acoustic/electronic is less relevant and because music being the vast universe that it is its always saaaafe to hear things that might've slipped below the radar.

Yeah you need some more names in here dude

 

http://youtu.be/4WaScFXm9HQ

 

 

 

http://youtu.be/h5sSG9SbHys

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://youtu.be/2jU9mJbJsQ8

Highly underrated but utterly wonderful...

well tuned piano is really fucking great

My personal favorite from Parmegiani is Dedans/Dehors; that's been reissued in 2012 by Recollection GRM. Not at his most lyric or complex, but the walk within spaces hits a special spot for me. That rising forest fire...

 

I warmingly second the Luc Ferrari recommendation.

 

  On 1/12/2015 at 10:18 PM, hello spiral said:

http://youtu.be/2jU9mJbJsQ8

 

Simply the most perfect track. For a good Alvin Lucier introduction, check out this audio documentary on Ubuweb (produced by Luc Ferrari's widow).

Ooh, great thread. Where my head is at lately.

Nice stuff, spiral. Some great stuff I hadn't heard. Cheers.

 

 

 

Probably kinda 101 but I've been obsessed with Steve Reich's "Different Trains" this week

(Amazing how he modulates the tempos...tempi?...to accommodate the rates of the vocal samples)

 

I love Luc Ferrari's "Presque Rien"

(essentially just a field recording of a quiet little fishing village but hey as Brian Eno said: "don't avoid what is easy")

 

 

Here's a Christian Wolf lecture that I've been spinning lately.

(He talks about some really cool and specific conceptual stuff)

 

 

Oh and can't forget Pierre Henry's "Variations Pour une Porte et un Soupir."

(kinda like "Dripsody" but using an attic door instead)

Edited January 13, 2015 by LimpyLoo

  On 1/13/2015 at 3:27 AM, aencre said:

My personal favorite from Parmegiani is Dedans/Dehors; that's been reissued in 2012 by Recollection GRM. Not at his most lyric or complex, but the walk within spaces hits a special spot for me. That rising forest fire...

 

I warmingly second the Luc Ferrari recommendation.

 

  On 1/12/2015 at 10:18 PM, hello spiral said:

http://youtu.be/2jU9mJbJsQ8

 

Simply the most perfect track. For a good Alvin Lucier introduction, check out this audio documentary on Ubuweb (produced by Luc Ferrari's widow).

 

Oh shit nice one!

 

Out of all these guys and girls my biggest hardon is reserved for Lucier.

'Still and Moving Lines of Silence in Families of Hyperbolas' is a must if you haven't heard it already.

 

http://www.discogs.com/Alvin-Lucier-Still-And-Moving-Lines-Of-Silence-In-Families-Of-Hyperbolas/release/750844

If we're just throwin out randoms then Ivo Malec and Jacques Lejeune are really cool and worth looking at. But yeah of the three mentioned I think Stockhausen's the one who resonated with me the most. Not a piece of music exactly, but he has this book Stockhausen on Music and it is really cool, like a collection of essays/lectures about different works. It gets a bit technical but if you're into composing electronic music at all the Four Criteria for Electronic Music bit that he has about Kontakte is really interesting.

still, i love much of his music.

 

"zodiac"

 

 

and "hymnen"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBwqwvnaJT0

 

might be good starting points to the extremes of his work; the first one very quiet and beautifully subdued in an almost morton feldman- like style, the other massive noise fun

^ Oh man, I really want a copy of Treatise. Something I never seem to get around to buying.

 

 

 

and check out cardew, too!

 

this recording is incredibly good:

 

Cheers!

 

Love AMM but I've never actually listened to his solo stuff.

 

I dig Cardew's Son's music under the name Walter & Sabrina too but it's not for everyone (to say the least)

  On 1/13/2015 at 4:21 AM, LimpyLoo said:

I love Luc Ferrari's "Presque Rien"

(essentially just a field recording of a quiet little fishing village but hey as Brian Eno said: "don't avoid what is easy")

Much more than that - recordings taken over a day, then edited down to create a false reality - I love the ending section with the layers of crickets. Really intense.

My favourite is Presque Rien No. 2 though. Starts in similar fashion, but as it moved in to take in the folk band and then the synthesised thunder storm it really sounds like nothing else. I looked for it on YouTube to post yesterday to no avail, sadly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io9PKmm0kn8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUOBLJmhlDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgjsT9DwlsQ

First (obvious) things that come to mind in this corner of the music world. Thanks again HS (and others!), some good stuff I haven't heard in your list :)

^ Fuck, how did I forget Ionisation??

 

Lush

Edited January 13, 2015 by hello spiral

some fuckin superb picks + further cross referencing = time well spent.....cheers

 

Terry Riley is a massive talent, some of his collaborations with LM Young have Zen'd me right out today, not as outright abstract as some posted & audio could be better but,,,,,,,

 

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this is just obscenely serene, seeen,,,,,,,,

 

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lol olde man fucking it up i meant this

 

 

La Monte Young - Pre-Tortoise Dream Music

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLitnrAd9jg

 

 

The Theatre of Eternal Music - Dream House 78'17''

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezxej1S52E

 

 

this is just obscenely serene, seeen,,,,,,,,

 

La Monte Young - Rag Bhairava (Excerpt)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU44AucYxB8

Edited January 14, 2015 by cwmbrancity

its all gone wonky now with best answer graphics & sostoooooooooooned

lucier is mah dawwwwwgggg

 

 

got to study with him once upon a time. music for gamelan is a great piece

 

whenever i'm on the john i usually mumble "i am shitting in a room...."

  On 1/14/2015 at 4:13 AM, dr lopez said:

lucier is mah dawwwwwgggg

 

 

got to study with him once upon a time. music for gamelan is a great piece

 

whenever i'm on the john i usually mumble "i am shitting in a room...."

 

you got to study with him!?!

 

do tell

  On 1/13/2015 at 1:02 AM, purlieu said:

Highly underrated but utterly wonderful...

 

This is excellent, thanks for posting it.