hayhook Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Discuss. http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/237292/all-the-ghostly-sounds-that-are-lost-when-you-compress-to-mp3/ ""moDernisT" was created by salvaging the sounds and images lost to compression via the mp3 and mp4 codecs. the audio is comprised of lost mp3 compression material from the song "Tom's Diner",famously used as one of the main controls in the listening tests to develop the MP3 encoding algorithm.Here we find the form of the song intact, but the details are just remnants of the original. the video was created by takahiro suzuki in response to the audio track and then run through a similar algorithm after being compressed to mp4. thus, both audio and video are the "ghosts" of their respective compression codecs. version one." http://theghostinthemp3.com/theghostinthemp3.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hayhook's signature Hide all signatures https://www.mixcloud.com/hayhook/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 wow. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hello spiral's signature Hide all signatures https://salaamhelicoid.bandcamp.com/ Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 It's real nice, love spectral artefacts - reminds me of the album by The Automatics Group: Summer Mix Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Sounds great Wish he kept it raw tho. It sounds like he added/tweaked/composed a bit on the track. Shouldn't that chime be all grainy and stuff? Or am I mistaken? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 But I guess Vimeo compresses the audio/video too, doesn't it? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 On 2/18/2015 at 12:51 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said: But I guess Vimeo compresses the audio/video too, doesn't it? yes you're right. LaserDisc is the only true way that this can be viewed without nulls. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 You'll never truly witness anything unless you can shoot lasers out of your eyes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I like the resulting audio, but using it to denigrate the mp3 format is misguided. "Listen to everything you're missing!!" Sorry but psychoacoustics (and the psychoacoustic models used in lossy encoding) do not work this way. Current, optimized implementations of mp3 (i.e., lame) achieve perceptual transparency at reasonable bitrates (below 192k); any doubters out there can go ahead and try ABX a lame-encoded VBR mp3 of their favorite music vs the uncompressed original. The fact that the mp3 standard is old is irrelevant. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BobDobalina's signature Hide all signatures CA$HNE$$ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Atom Dowry Firth Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 VST plugin version of this pls Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 convert track to mp3, import & invert phase? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lala's signature Hide all signatures Beethoven, ages ago, said: To play a wrong note is insignificant. To play without passion is inexcusable Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Jan Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Very cool idea - sounds awesome! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 awesome! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
melancholera Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 I've gotten a similar effect in Audition by running the noise remover on extreme settings before. Didn't turn out quite this abstract but it had that same eerie digital spectral sound. Very cool. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Coninidentally it looks like the album I talked about up there ^^ yesterday has just got a repressing. This time on 12'' - http://boomkat.com/vinyl/1218175-the-automatics-group-summer-mix-vinyl-edition Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86748-ghosts-in-the-mp3-whats-lost-when-a-track-is-compressed/#findComment-2293786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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