Brisbot Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Okay as a disclaimer, I'm not asking how much time I should spend on my tracks. I'm just asking about your habits. Why? I don't know I'm curious, it's as simple as that. I'm really asking about your recent habits. They've probably changed since last year as you've gotten better.I've spent anywhere from 5-10 hours (on straight up piano tracks) and a max of 68 on a track I did in december. I wish I had more patience as I'd easily like to spend over 100 hours perfecting my favorite tracks, but at some point I really dislike listening to it. Usually after I release a track that took me a while (40+ hours), I'll only rarely listen to it for about a month or 2, and then I listen to it, and it's fresh again.I'm actually working on my patience, it's of my opinion that you should take ALL of the time possible, until you KNOW it's done (this has never happened to me) if you know you've got a good track on your hands, verses these little practice tracks I like to make every once in a while that take 2-3 hours or something that are kind of throw away. Edited May 22, 2015 by Brisbot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I've not really kept tabs on the sheer number of hours though I am curious. Of course it depends on the length, style and interface (I tend to make tracks on hardware much faster than software). I remember the first track I ever made took me 4 months to make (on & off) :p Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Goiter Sanchez's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud - http://soundcloud.com/swegunoFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sweguno Mixcloud - https://www.mixcloud.com/Sweguno/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) sweet, Oh yes, some tracks of mine take months as well, on and off :). Most completed tracks are 40 hours, which is a full work week in itself, DURING free time of course, and at one time I'm usually working on 5/6 tracks. So there's math involved.I also have FL Studio which keeps tabs of your hours. It stops counting when you idle and click out so I think it's fairly accurate.That said my very best tracks were done In like a week 50+ hours :). ALL OF MY FREE TIME, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Edited May 22, 2015 by Brisbot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 On 5/22/2015 at 5:18 AM, Brisbot said: I also have FL Studio which keeps tabs of your hours. It stops counting when you idle and click out so I think it's fairly accurate. That's a very cool feature. I'd be curious to know how many hours I've spent on some of my tracks. might be kind of depressing though, knowing just how much I've obsessed over small details. Then again, there's almost nothing I enjoy doing more... On the tracks I've been creating for my upcoming album I've spent significantly more time making them. I used to spend 3 days to a week and a half on a track, but those were the days where I would devote most of my day to working on my own music. Lately I've been spending a couple of weeks to a month on each track, and then going back to revise the mix weeks or months after that. It's rare I get a chance to put more than 4 hours into a track per day though, so... I really have no idea how many hours go into my tracks. I released an ambient album a couple years back, and that was made over the span of two months. If i had to guess, I'd say each track took ~15 hours? Seems like a reasonable guess... but yeah, I have no idea heh. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Can't say but i'd guess 10 hours of pure work. Maybe another couple of hours doing shit that doesn't really make it into the final track. I think i spend way more time with my head in the clouds conceptualizing tracks rather than actually working on them Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I consider them ALL the time, then occasionally swoop in and Pollock about for a bit, breath it all in, then exit. (I did spend a year 24/7 with my tunes which was the happiest time I EVER spent, that is my 42 moment) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide AWW's signature Hide all signatures https://amalgamatedwondersoftheworld.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aces Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Honestly, I spend too long making one track. The last one I finished took about two weeks although I am having to fit my music making in around work. I'm trying to get to the point where I can write one track a week. I'm also considering moving away from using computers, I'm a bit fed up of looking at screens. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coax Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) I'm one of those who if I don't have anything that catches me within an hour, I have to stop. So basically 1-3 hours is the typical length. After 2 hours I'm mentally drained and can't go on, and I also have a problem with getting back in the mood a day after and stuff like that. It's gotten better but working on tracks for days or weeks... I can't see how people do it and maintain the "vision" in their head and the "pressure". Edit: also it's much easier to start on a new fresh template, as opposed to working on the same track for a long time. So I can spend a lot more time making music than making an individual track, on a weekly basis Edited May 22, 2015 by coax Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aces Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 On 5/22/2015 at 2:37 PM, coax said: I'm one of those who if I don't have anything that catches me within an hour, I have to stop. So basically 1-3 hours is the typical length. After 2 hours I'm mentally drained and can't go on, and I also have a problem with getting back in the mood a day after and stuff like that. It's gotten better but working on tracks for days or weeks... I can't see how people do it and maintain the "vision" in their head and the "pressure" Generally, in my case the meat and bones of the idea get done in the first session everything else is refinement of that initial idea. If the idea is strong enough to be finished it will be. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 anywhere between 30 mins and lots of hours depending on the track / method many of my best tracks have been boshed out in under an hour some slowly grow over weeks, months and years - wouldn't have a clue how many hours have been spent on a particular track Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
granty Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I can spend weeks on a track in Logic and it doesn't sound as good as something I've churned out in a day on my iPad - and vice versa. I reckon the main thing is to let it grow naturally, without having to think about it too much, as they usually sound laboured or fall into cliches if you force it to completion *snigger* I always get too excited and upload them to soundcloud early - then take them down, tweak them, take them down, tweak them a bit more etc. Need a bit more restraint there. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide granty's signature Hide all signatures instagram.com/lo_five_ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunktronics Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 anywhere from 5 hours to about 3/4 years on and off. tho i use samples i made 15 years ago in new productions....so who knows On 5/22/2015 at 3:25 PM, westhead said: I can spend weeks on a track in Logic and it doesn't sound as good as something I've churned out in a day on my iPad - and vice versa. I reckon the main thing is to let it grow naturally, without having to think about it too much, as they usually sound laboured or fall into cliches if you force it to completion *snigger* I always get too excited and upload them to soundcloud early - then take them down, tweak them, take them down, tweak them a bit more etc. Need a bit more restraint there. what you using on the ipad? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 not nearly enough i keep getting swiped away by ending my tracks Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I find it too nice working on a fresh template as it breeds creativity and so have issues finishing stuff. Have really good intentions to finish stuff but get bloody annoyed at my laptop lagging when I'm doing stuff like Eqing multiple tracks with loads of effects etc. I can't wait to have the cash to have something better than a dual core 4gb ram :( Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hey nice replies guys! I enjoyed reading them :) Quote I find it too nice working on a fresh template as it breeds creativity and so have issues finishing stuff. Have really good intentions to finish stuff but get bloody annoyed at my laptop lagging when I'm doing stuff like Eqing multiple tracks with loads of effects etc. I can't wait to have the cash to have something better than a dual core 4gb ram :( Oh yeah, I have the 'luck' to have a quite good computer (i7 quad core intel from the previous gen I think by now) that I do stuff on, that said I'll be going to University very soon so I'll probably start operating partially out of a laptop myself. Thing is with my quite good computer I too often get to the point where my computer lags badly. It's kind of sad that computers still aren't to the point where they can handle things. I end up having to bounce audio out of course. Quote anywhere from 5 hours to about 3/4 years on and off. Oh wow, I'm nowhere near 3/4 years. My interest is simply gone or I'm better after a point where I'd rather just work on new music. Quote I consider them ALL the time, then occasionally swoop in and Pollock about for a bit, breath it all in, then exit. (I did spend a year 24/7 with my tunes which was the happiest time I EVER spent, that is my 42 moment) I want to do this at some point. Save up to take a year off my job, get rid of my internet on my computer (just use it on my phone or something if I really need it)sooooo much would get done. I bet you improved TONS in that year. Quote I normally get the demo/rough arrangement done in 20 minutes, by the time I hit the 8 hour mark it'll be pretty fleshed out. From there its polished up a bit. 8 hours 20 minutes? Well I'm jelly... Quote I'm one of those who if I don't have anything that catches me within an hour, I have to stop. So basically 1-3 hours is the typical length. After 2 hours I'm mentally drained and can't go on, and I also have a problem with getting back in the mood a day after and stuff like that. It's gotten better but working on tracks for days or weeks... I can't see how people do it and maintain the "vision" in their head and the "pressure". I have the 'day after' problem a bit. That's only if I spend ALL DAY on my track, and my brain is reluctant to start working on the music again. That said if I force myself to (which is not easy) I can get into it. Some days I produce pure shit though. I've noticed that I'm at my best when I'm especially enjoying listening to music, so I basically have to choose between working on music and listening to it. I try to choose working more often :) So if you're the same way then you might be able to better gauge how well you're going to do that day if you're really enjoying listening to music. Quote Honestly, I spend too long making one track. The last one I finished took about two weeks although I am having to fit my music making in around work. I'm trying to get to the point where I can write one track a week. I'm also considering moving away from using computers, I'm a bit fed up of looking at screens. hmm, I don't think it's a good idea to count making tracks by weeks. If I were you (and I'm not) I'd work on increasing the time you work on music per week. In a year It's better to have 25 good to great tracks you made every 2 weeks or so, than 50 bad to decent to good (occasionally great) tracks you made. I guess it depends on what music you're making though. Quote anywhere between 30 mins and lots of hours depending on the track / method many of my best tracks have been boshed out in under an hour some slowly grow over weeks, months and years - wouldn't have a clue how many hours have been spent on a particular track hey LErd! I am kind of like that, where I can get a really good template out in an hour, but there's never been a time personally for me where I feel like I'm done after an hour, but you like to make ambient stuff in addition to the faster stuff, so that's different I suppose.A potentially interesting question I just thought up:Assuming you had1. Infinite patience in completing your tracks, where you could work on a track from age 5 till death if you wanted.2. but a finite lifespanAt what point would working on a single track become absurd, since you could potentially work on 1 (phenomenal, best ever) track from the time you can make music until you die. Would it be better to make like 5 amazing tracks per year, and come out with a 15 track album every 3 years? How would you go about that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 one year full time for one track with video. Currently most of the tracks are half finished after 3 hours and it's pretty hard to take up the thread again the next day Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiefinger Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) If it's a "big" tune, I spend about two days working on it. If it's a "small" tune, I get it done in a day. I don't count the hours but it's most of the free time I have during days. I can't work on one track too long because I get bored. My mindset is to improve on the next tune and not spend all my time perfecting just one thing. I don't know if that's actually good though. Edited May 22, 2015 by Thiefinger Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salem1976 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Anywhere from an hour or two to years. I keep everything, so sometimes I'll load up an oldie and play around with it. I have tracks going back 15 years or so and I think they will all eventually get finished. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salem1976's signature Hide all signatures https://soundcloud.com/salem-1976 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 from 10 minutes to 10 yrs Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 On 5/22/2015 at 2:47 PM, LUDD said: anywhere between 30 mins and lots of hours depending on the track / method many of my best tracks have been boshed out in under an hour some slowly grow over weeks, months and years - wouldn't have a clue how many hours have been spent on a particular track this. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Indeed! Bouncing to audio for me is essential. I have to do multiple takes where I'm adding eq and effects in layers and then resampling that stuff to audio. Annoying as that takes time to render it all out to audio too. Suppose I just need more patience. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perezvon Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 On 5/22/2015 at 11:58 PM, MIXL2 said: On 5/22/2015 at 2:47 PM, LUDD said: anywhere between 30 mins and lots of hours depending on the track / method many of my best tracks have been boshed out in under an hour some slowly grow over weeks, months and years - wouldn't have a clue how many hours have been spent on a particular track this. this. Way more time spent listening to a track than writing and adjusting it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Perezvon's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropi Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 eons Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
granty Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 On 5/22/2015 at 3:39 PM, miim said: what you using on the ipad? Garageband. Works well for me because I can import the project file into Logic if its any good. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide granty's signature Hide all signatures instagram.com/lo_five_ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 It varies - a lot. Some tracks take a couple of hours, some days, and some months. It all depends on if I can see a clear path for the track. I've got a couple of tracks I've been working on for over a year, and I've been working on them for so long now that I don't think I'll ever finish them, because nothing can live up to one year of work. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/87649-how-much-time-do-you-spend-on-your-tracks/#findComment-2326639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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