cEvin Key about Aphex in 96

Nothing exciting here, but for those few cEvin Key fans around here who might have wondered if cEvin was into Aphex Twin back in the day, well, that pretty much sums it up.

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NL: Do you like Aphex Twin, Clock DVA, Bjork [sic] or haujobb.?

CK: I like all these bands. Youve seen my record collection. What would you say? Mostly old stuff?

NL: Yes.

CK: Thats what I like: Old stuff. I love Coil. Aphex is the one who currently stakes out the frontiers of the territory. We're here and he is there. He has a completely new approach. He is a brilliant person. I'd love to collaborate with him, but we're probably not minimalistic enough.

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Source: https://anjtuesday.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/cevin-key-interview-from-new-life-febmar-1996-backtranslated/

He called Aphex Twin a "band".

Whats love got to do with it?

  On 6/18/2015 at 3:34 AM, PhylumZunami said:

Whats love 7 got to do with it?

Is this surprising? I always thought there was some mutual inspiration going on between industrial and IDM, from the very beginning..

  On 6/18/2015 at 3:25 AM, drillkicker said:

He called Aphex Twin a "band".

I knew there'd be one person pointing that out

For the record, he also referred to him as "he", if you read on a bit.

yeah, referring to {Aphex Twin, Clock DVA, Bjork [sic] or haujobb} collectively as "bands" while referring to aphex twin as "he" is hardly a misappropriation of the term but more just casual english laziness.

this is the lamest fucking post on watmm right here. god damnit drillkicker.

  On 6/18/2015 at 4:11 AM, modey said:

Is this surprising? I always thought there was some mutual inspiration going on between industrial and IDM, from the very beginning...

You're right, nothing surprising here, but it was never said that explicitly. I actually thought saying that back in 96 was quite ahead of its time. Let's not forget that most people who love Aphex now came after Windowlicker and drukqs, not before. It also shows how much of an icon Aphex already was for some of the other composers around. As for a mutual inspiration between indus and IDM, I agree, but I guess Aphex was more of an influence on Download, Plateau and cEvin's solo output, where he actually was doing his own version of IDM and techno, than on Skinny Puppy, where he was making cash with the indus hype hehe. You can tell in this interview that he was pretty bored with Skinny Puppy in 96 and saw it as making commercial, melodic music for his label.

Skinny Puppy and Aphex collab. pls.

  On 6/18/2015 at 4:50 AM, Haste said:

Skinny Puppy and Aphex collab. pls.

Probably end up something like this:

  On 6/18/2015 at 4:46 AM, MassfreeKid said:

 

  On 6/18/2015 at 4:11 AM, modey said:

Is this surprising? I always thought there was some mutual inspiration going on between industrial and IDM, from the very beginning...

You're right, nothing surprising here, but it was never said that explicitly. I actually thought saying that back in 96 was quite ahead of its time. Let's not forget that most people who love Aphex now came after Windowlicker and drukqs, not before. It also shows how much of an icon Aphex already was for some of the other composers around. As for a mutual inspiration between indus and IDM, I agree, but I guess Aphex was more of an influence on Download, Plateau and cEvin's solo output, where he actually was doing his own version of IDM and techno, than on Skinny Puppy, where he was making cash with the indus hype hehe. You can tell in this interview that he was pretty bored with Skinny Puppy in 96 and saw it as making commercial, melodic music for his label.

 

I guess mutual inspiration was the wrong word—maybe mutual respect, I guess?

I've always found the two genres to be linked in some way, probably just the way I grew up though where all the goths I knew were into IDM as well as industrial..

Autechre's explicitly stated that they've taken a lot of influence from Coil.

I don't understand...I thought electronic-ish artists liking Aphex was pretty much a given at this stage?

It's like being in a metal band and saying that you've gone through a Slayer stage.

did david guetta go through his aphex twin stage?

When I first heard him in the early 90s, I thought that Aphex Twin sounded a little like instrumental Skinny Puppy.

Last Rites definitely has some IDM vibes.

I'd be down for more stuff like 35 Japan. Industrial vibes there.

Not too surprised even as someone who knows little about industrial. In fact Front Line Assembly sampled AE and AFX on one of their albums, as awepittance has pointed out before.

It's cool to know. Aphex Twin is name-checked quite often by not just industrial and techno artists but also indie rock acts and shoegaze bands like Radiohead and Slowdive.

  On 6/18/2015 at 4:46 AM, MassfreeKid said:

 

  On 6/18/2015 at 4:11 AM, modey said:

Is this surprising? I always thought there was some mutual inspiration going on between industrial and IDM, from the very beginning...

You're right, nothing surprising here, but it was never said that explicitly. I actually thought saying that back in 96 was quite ahead of its time. Let's not forget that most people who love Aphex now came after Windowlicker and drukqs, not before. It also shows how much of an icon Aphex already was for some of the other composers around. As for a mutual inspiration between indus and IDM, I agree, but I guess Aphex was more of an influence on Download, Plateau and cEvin's solo output, where he actually was doing his own version of IDM and techno, than on Skinny Puppy, where he was making cash with the indus hype hehe. You can tell in this interview that he was pretty bored with Skinny Puppy in 96 and saw it as making commercial, melodic music for his label.

 

You are dead wrong about that, this site is pretty much an anomaly as far as people getting in to Aphex after 96'. On the contrary...nearly everyone I've ever known only likes his work up to ICBYD and drop off drastically from RDJ on. There is absolutely no question that his most productive and prolific period is the early to mid 90's period. I just think it's funny and a tad annoying that people think he was like unknown or something before the late 90's...its downright laughable and just shows the extent of which so many people on this forum seem to lhave been living under a rock.

To be clear...anybody who was into electronic music in the early to mid 90's will tell you - Aphex Twin was one of the biggest names in electronic music - period -. I find that the younger generation of fans place a great deal of emphasis on the more commercial aspects of art. For instance - everybody pulling for him to win a Grammy as if it's some form of needed validation. RDJ like many of the most inovative 90's contemporaries placed far more emphasis on shunning the mainstream and championing the underground. Hah just look at his comment on souncloud when asked about his Grammy....says something to the effect of "haven't got it yet, want to toss in the bog".

Many of you don't get it. This is an artist who turned down most of his mainstream opportunities. But on this forum most people see his period of breaking on to MTV with windowlicker and come to daddy as real credibility. I'm sorry to tell you but that stuff is not the seminal material for which he is held in such high regard and influence....the real masterpieces are everything up to and including ICBYD.

  On 6/20/2015 at 6:38 AM, killabyte11 said:

To be clear...anybody who was into electronic music in the early to mid 90's will tell you - Aphex Twin was one of the biggest names in electronic music - period -. I find that the younger generation of fans place a great deal of emphasis on the more commercial aspects of art. For instance - everybody pulling for him to win a Grammy as if it's some form of needed validation. RDJ like many of the most inovative 90's contemporaries placed far more emphasis on shunning the mainstream and championing the underground. Hah just look at his comment on souncloud when asked about his Grammy....says something to the effect of "haven't got it yet, want to toss in the bog".

Many of you don't get it. This is an artist who turned down most of his mainstream opportunities. But on this forum most people see his period of breaking on to MTV with windowlicker and come to daddy as real credibility. I'm sorry to tell you but that stuff is not the seminal material for which he is held in such high regard and influence....the real masterpieces are everything up to and including ICBYD.

Literally who was pulling for him to win a grammy except for the lol factor. And literally who on this forum let alone "most people" see his "period of breaking on to MTV with windowlicker and come to daddy as real credibility"? What does credibility mean? Nobody here gives a fuck about it

Like point me out a person or two who actually thinks that. Windowlicker and CTD get barely any mentions here musically it's all drukqs and saws/rdj/icbyd/just about everything else.

And I guess you don't know many people who like him if "literally everyone" of them doesn't like anything post-rdj album, that's his best stuff. And it's the majority of his stuff by duration as well

Stop making massive generalizations about his fan base.

edit: probably not actually anymore w.r.t. duration thing, soundcloud dump of all early stuff skews it by like 15 hours or whatever it is now. but official releases there is way more stuff post-icbyd

Windowlicker is the best idmpop parody ever, not a cashcow. Tho I hardly ever listen to come to dad, a bit too death screamo for me