Could anyone be famous

Dumb debate: Could any moderately talented and attractive singer, with the right team of marketers, businessmen, and lawyers behind them, be just as famous and successful as any other? Or is there actually something special about these individuals themselves? Or is it a mix of both.

they have to have the x factor m8

Becoming famous really just boils down to really good networking. You know the right people. Some people are born into a network of people that help them pursue their goals (i.e. Nicolas Cage, his Uncle is Francis Ford Coppola.) Or you can be so charismatic that you create your network from scratch (i.e. Brad Pitt, moved to LA at age 18 and started acting in commercials, moved up from there)

 

When referring to pop music, much of the music and the musicians are manufactured by the record labels to sell records. No one on the radio is really profoundly good at what they do (singing, guitar, ext.) imo.

Nobody could be famous.

No-one is truly famous unless they have the x-factor of Khloe Kardashian. What a cute little gizmo creature she is. Just her head on legs like an owl. It'd be quite a cool pet ho have. Feed it occasionally but never after midnight.

A much more interesting for me is could there be people who use the internet yet does not aware of any celebrities outside of their field of interest etc, i.e. when they basically mean nothing. I mean, i don't like that i somehow know fucking everyone, like actors of which i haven't seen a single movie or musicians i haven't heard a song from. I don't reach out for them yet i still know a lot. I actually began to read on Kim Kardashian and stuff just to try to understand the phenomenon. Sometimes i began to think that maybe i should be a celebrity too, for Andy Warhol' sake!

  On 9/6/2015 at 3:26 AM, Amen Lare said:

A much more interesting for me is could there be people who use the internet yet does not aware of any celebrities outside of their field of interest

That's basically me. I don't talk to anyone who cares about celebrities, so I'm spared from all of that garbage. Though staying under my rock also leaves me largely unaware of current events, like how I just found out that there's apparently some stuff going on with refugees in the Mediterranean.

In response to the OP, I think big record companies send people out to go and search for small and naïve musicians who play really accessible songs, don't know or care much about musical exploration, and have a few key factors that they're told to look for, and then they send those musicians over to the studio to play songs that the record company commissioned to be written, put it all together, and pay for marketing specialists to get it on the radio and television. There are a few people (like Kurt Cobain for example) who actually made their way to the record companies and got famous that way, but it isn't as common for that to happen because it depends on just being at the right place at the right time. I think The Beatles were a combination of both of those, but probably a bit more of the former than the latter.

 

That's all just guessing, though.

Edited September 6, 2015 by drillkicker

Topic reminded me of the famous artists prank ad here from 2:09

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XelIqsYFu3I

Go ask a famous person?

Depends on blow jay skills

Just wear Bape and Supreme clothes and rap about lean tbh

Anyone could probably be made 'famous', if all else fails give them enough pocket money and let them attention whore at the right events/parties.

 

But to have an enduring career in entertainment, to become be a respected artist and not just the flavor of the month, my feeling is that sort of thing usually takes talent.

 

  On 9/6/2015 at 2:31 AM, Danny O Flannagin said:

When referring to pop music, much of the music and the musicians are manufactured by the record labels to sell records. No one on the radio is really profoundly good at what they do (singing, guitar, ext.) imo.

People who are 'profoundly good' good at singing or playing instruments might as well end up in deathly boring music competitions or shred guitar instructional videos, those aren't the qualities that should determine popularity or success. Sure there are gifted musicians among popular artists, but I don't think the Beatles would have stood a chance in the Queen Elisabeth Competition for instance.

  On 9/6/2015 at 2:22 AM, Zeffolia said:

Dumb debate: Could any moderately talented and attractive singer, with the right team of marketers, businessmen, and lawyers behind them, be just as famous and successful as any other? Or is there actually something special about these individuals themselves? Or is it a mix of both.

 

I think people very often underestimate the importance of hard work. In my experience the ones who make it have at least a moderate talent, but above all have a clear goal and don't fucking give up.

 

  On 9/6/2015 at 8:38 AM, manmower said:

I don't think the Beatles would have stood a chance in the Queen Elisabeth Competition for instance.

 

The Beatles wrote more classic masterpiece songs than all contestants in the Queen Elizabeth Competitions put together. And they performed them with the exactly right balance of sweetness and rawness to make them the biggest pop band of the 60s.

i think it helps to be really, really, ridiculously good looking

 

to quote zoolander

  On 9/6/2015 at 9:25 AM, psn said:

The Beatles wrote more classic masterpiece songs than all contestants in the Queen Elizabeth Competitions put together. And they performed them with the exactly right balance of sweetness and rawness to make them the biggest pop band of the 60s.

Yeah. They're also on the radio.

being famous is overrated

Literally anyone can be famous, just kill lots of people in a rampage spree^* - you'll be in all the media by the morning.

 

^{*For illustrative purposes only. Don't do this.}

only requirement is to be human

  On 9/6/2015 at 2:33 PM, Deer said:

only requirement is to be human

Or be a lion that gets killed by a hunter/dentist but don't try it at home.

Or just post in the scientology thread

  On 9/6/2015 at 2:31 PM, mcbpete said:

Literally anyone can be famous, just kill lots of people in a rampage spree^* - you'll be in all the media by the morning.

 

^{*For illustrative purposes only. Don't do this.}

If you blast your demo tape during your capture, when they play the footage 500 times on loop on every news station, some label might hear it and send you a contract in jail. "Dear grandma, jail sucks. Oh yeah, but I finally got signed to Planet Mu, so that's cool. Can you send Mike P my latest album? I got like 12 copies under my bed. Thanks. Love, Rodrigo"

the amount of ridiculously stupid shit on youtube that gets thousands and millions of views pretty much answers that question really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9_b85GS_Ro

I actually like the rawness of her videos. And somehow the music is made by a pro. If she did everything, I'm impressed.