Danny O Flannagin Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) So, I recently got Ableton and set up Max for Live but I'm concerned with the required Java installation. Max wants me to instal an outdated version of Java, Java 6, from the apple website. But after doing some research I found this is an outdated Java with many security holes. I thought i'd be able to turn it off for web browsing but theres no control panel in system preferences. Anyone else have this issue, is there anything i can do to insure that Java 6 ins't getting involved with the internet and is strictly used to run Max in Albeton? I'm OSX 10.10.5 btw This is a thread I found that explains the problem better than I can https://www.ableton.com/answers/is-installing-apple-java-se-6-unavoidable-to-use-max-for-live-on-mavericks Edited November 11, 2015 by Danny O Flannagin Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 On 11/11/2015 at 6:29 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said: hmm. it is true that java has many holes, and also still bundles optional malware with the download. i think you'll be ok, it's worth it just to have max4live imo. just careful you don't install the ask toolbar with installation and keep a decent antivirus handy. you might be able to get a plugin for chrome / firefox that disables it if you can't do it from the java program itself. So Mesh, are you on mac? What version of Java are you using? If they updated it to be able to use the newest java from Oracle, I might as well go with that but i keep hearing it isn't compatible with Max Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 audio software is enough of a headache, dont pirate a program like that if its not pirated then something is wrong, i dont know what. start googling terms. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yeah apparently on a Mac it is an issue - https://www.ableton.com/answers/is-installing-apple-java-se-6-unavoidable-to-use-max-for-live-on-mavericks Oops that's already the link you posted at the top! This is the Java version you use to get it to work - https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572?locale=en_US But I believe the security issues are only when using Java applications on web browsers, and I think the two installs (old Java and new Java) can co-exist on the same drive and you just point the browser to using the newer one. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychotronic Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Just disable it in all your browsers. You don't need to disable it on system level. http://osxdaily.com/2012/09/08/how-to-disable-java/ Edited November 11, 2015 by Psychotronic Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Psychotronic's signature Hide all signatures (シ)// Reject all ambition to center yourself and find intuition. >> Bandcamp | Homepage | electronicattack.de | Newest shizzle Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Aye, and aside from Minecraft I don't actually know anything online that uses Java! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 On 11/11/2015 at 9:00 PM, Psychotronic said: Just disable it in all your browsers. You don't need to disable it on system level. http://osxdaily.com/2012/09/08/how-to-disable-java/ Ya, i tried doing this on multiple browsers but this article is slightly outdated. For instance, there isn't an Enable Java button on Safari but there is an Enable Javascript button. Is that basically the same thing? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Nah, confusingly java and javascript are two different languages... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 ya, thats what i thought, so there really is no Disable java button. I guess just start using firefox or chrome and disable any java plugins? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Maybe it's been completely depreciated in Safari so you can't enable it in the first place. Try this page and see if it displays a java version in the block at the top. If it's disabled (like it is for me in Chrome) you'll just get a blank space or an error message - http://javatester.org/version.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Okay, that gives some closure. Java isn't running. Thanks pete Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89264-max-for-live-java-6-instal-required/#findComment-2389949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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