Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Pretty sure the answer is no but I just want to double check If you really make the parameters insane (max tempo, max resonance, max everything so it sounds like it's screaming) there's no risk of some internal component overheating and melting or something is there? Can you safely use any parameters you want for any period of time? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAAAh Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 yeah im on my 11th TB303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide AAAAh's signature Hide all signatures triachus yelling AAAA really straings the voice, and the tiny h really represents the struggle and hardship a vocal chord must endure for yelling AAAA http://i.imgur.com/jXQiEuU.jpg Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 On 11/12/2015 at 10:01 PM, Zeffolia said: Can you safely use any parameters you want for any period of time? Yes, unless the electrical circuit is really badly designed. Have never heard of a commercially produced synthesizer with such a problem. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) The parameters won't break your synth. Im sure that some parameters have a greater effect on your synth life than others, like ones that could pulse current instead of constant flow. Although Im no EE but Im sure the effects of this are vastly out-weight by factors such as where you keep your synth: hot/cold/dirty/clean/smokefree or if you drop it. Most electronics die at the same time as their peers. So if the synth is known for craping out after a certain amount of play time, it usually won't be far off. Edited November 12, 2015 by chassis Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQQ Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Depending on your monitors/speakers you might break them. I remember temporarily breaking my macbook speaker by recording a yowza mcbowza (no lie) and playing it with loads of added distortion and shit. Made a pop and stopped working for a while. Good times. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) On 11/12/2015 at 10:11 PM, QQQ said: Depending on your monitors/speakers you might break them. Speakers are fagile, I think we're all aware of this. Generally, moving parts = bad. Edited November 12, 2015 by chassis Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 all analogue synthesizers have a destruct sequence that is triggered by a certain configuration of the ADSR envelope only known to synthesizer engineers, and to be used in an absolute emergency. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 A typical filter chip has 14,000 filter sweeps in it's lifetime, choose them wisely. Take a 1/3 off that number if you sweep with full resonance. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 On 11/12/2015 at 10:56 PM, Chesney said: A typical filter chip has 14,000 filter sweeps in it's lifetime, choose them wisely. Take a 1/3 off that number if you sweep with full resonance. LOL Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Look I'm just asking lol, like I said I was 99.99% sure this is a dumb question but I am now 100% sure. And this is now the first result when googling this so now anyone else can see the answer too. They say oscillators can become detuned and shit like that from extended use and that's the appeal of analog, how would I know whether that can be taken towards an extreme where a capacitor is blown or some bs Edited November 12, 2015 by Zeffolia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Most things break when they're pushed too far. Except black holes... they just get bigger. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Yes you can. That is why I have my synths against the wall now. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/12/2015 at 11:13 PM, Zeffolia said: Look I'm just asking lol, like I said I was 99.99% sure this is a dumb question but I am now 100% sure. And this is now the first result when googling this so now anyone else can see the answer too. They say oscillators can become detuned and shit like that from extended use and that's the appeal of analog, how would I know whether that can be taken towards an extreme where a capacitor is blown or some bs http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) The synths will only break if they are male synths as they are pushed much harder than the female ones. To properly sex your synth you have to open it up and count every capacitor inside. Even numbers = Male, odd numbers = female. Edited November 13, 2015 by StephenG Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/13/2015 at 12:44 AM, StephenG said: The synths will only break if they are male synths as they are pushed much harder than the female ones. To properly sex your synth you have to open it up and count every capacitor inside. Even numbers = Male, odd numbers = female. StephenG is correct and make sure to include the ceramic capacitors in that count. Just because their portly doesn't mean that they don't need lovin'. However I want to add that even though you are told to only couple male to female/female to male connections with your non-polarized capacitors, you can couple them bisexually, full on male and male. But make sure you use plenty of protection and coating or else you'll lead to some nasty discharges and clumps of solder paste all over the place. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 i used to be able to make my RM1X have a seizure by pushing it to the max.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 whatever you do, don't use any sodomized electrons with analogue gear. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 One time in college we plugged the speaker output of a 10 watt guitar amp into the composite video input of an analog projector. That's the kind of thing you don't want to do. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 If you only use your genitals to adjust the parameters, you'll be fine. Just be very careful using your digits; they don't have properly aligned orgone energy unless you rinse them in negatively charged water. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychotronic Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Breaking synths just makes them more vintage. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Psychotronic's signature Hide all signatures (シ)// Reject all ambition to center yourself and find intuition. >> Bandcamp | Homepage | electronicattack.de | Newest shizzle Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/13/2015 at 2:32 AM, yek said: i used to be able to make my RM1X have a seizure by pushing it to the max.. nice I love how digital stuff can sound when it's pushed beyond recommended usage, sometimes moreso than analog.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/13/2015 at 4:46 AM, modey said: On 11/13/2015 at 2:32 AM, yek said: i used to be able to make my RM1X have a seizure by pushing it to the max.. nice I love how digital stuff can sound when it's pushed beyond recommended usage, sometimes moreso than analog.. Yeah there's something about the complexity of digital systems when you start to push them to their limits, there's more of a rugged "geography" to the texture where analog stuff is more fluid like air or water. Saturating the sequence memory of a paleolithic sequencer and data-fucking any old sound module with it is a pretty good time. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sonnyskare Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/13/2015 at 2:49 AM, RSP said: One time in college we plugged the speaker output of a 10 watt guitar amp into the composite video input of an analog projector. That's the kind of thing you don't want to do. wew lad seriously though that's funny as hell Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/13/2015 at 4:46 AM, modey said: On 11/13/2015 at 2:32 AM, yek said: i used to be able to make my RM1X have a seizure by pushing it to the max.. nice I love how digital stuff can sound when it's pushed beyond recommended usage, sometimes moreso than analog.. 3 words: Intelligent Pitch Shift Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 On 11/13/2015 at 3:42 AM, Psychotronic said: Breaking synths just makes them more vintage. lol very good Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89279-can-you-break-an-analog-synth-by-pushing-it-too-far/#findComment-2390376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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