delet... Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I like how they part way through the video show SJWs to show social control through peer pressure, heh. Corbett Report breakdown on said nightmare future thing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 This is brilliant. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yeah that looks pretty terrifying. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Damn that's fucked up Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 we should implement this into WATMM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Wow....what the hell...poor chinese...this is crazy!and fucking depressing! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 If it even remotely seems to work, you can bet on it being implemented elsewhere. It's probably already happening to some degree on Facebook. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 lolz... i will win the game! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2402977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted December 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 On 12/20/2015 at 9:09 AM, yek said: lolz... i will win the game! Nobody wins, as the majority normalises to the expected levels of obedience, they'll move the goalposts. And within the system, one imagines that quite arbitrary and contradictory changes in expected behaviour will be implemented as they tweak their control model to reflect the whims and fashions of the current ideological tenets, each new change of course being sacrosanct and whoa betide anyone that doesn't keep up. As to facebook, they are already implementing social control measures. Like facebook germany nixing links that express opposition to mass immigration. When I first watched the above video with my brother we were discussing how it could be implemented, and I stated that it would be likely that in china a good proportion of the early adopters of the 'rewards' system will likely be women, precisely because of said 'rewards'. And before you cry sexism, what on earth has that anything to do with it, women are more likely to coupon, look for discounted rates when going anywhere etc. and aren't as likely to go against the prevailing power structure, instead prefering to conform to social norms. Therefore, it is likely that this system's early adopters will be women and that they will drag the men in their lives into alignment with it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 LOL, I thought you were talking about this http://www.creditsesame.com Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 The tail is getting really fucking good at wagging the dog Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yup. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/20/2015 at 5:11 PM, delet... said: On 12/20/2015 at 9:09 AM, yek said: lolz... i will win the game! When I first watched the above video with my brother we were discussing how it could be implemented, and I stated that it would be likely that in china a good proportion of the early adopters of the 'rewards' system will likely be women, precisely because of said 'rewards'. And before you cry sexism, what on earth has that anything to do with it, women are more likely to coupon, look for discounted rates when going anywhere etc. and aren't as likely to go against the prevailing power structure, instead prefering to conform to social norms. Therefore, it is likely that this system's early adopters will be women and that they will drag the men in their lives into alignment with it. Simple demographics alone will tell you that the biggest proportion of likely users in China will be men. Added on to the fact that it is important for the man to show that he has good credit and a house in a desirable location, along with a nice car, and it becomes even more obvious that men will be the largest user base to start. You can bet that if the system works well in the private sector (which is where they're launching these in China - there are 5 of them altogether) that the CPC will implement their own version. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Can anyone think of a counter-strategy to Sesame Credit? Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreOceans Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/21/2015 at 12:26 PM, LimpyLoo said: Can anyone think of a counter-strategy to Sesame Credit? Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Don't use it, discourage everyone else from using it. Perhaps getting high profile/powerful people on board with rejecting it and get them to purposefully nuke their score would send a message. Though this is from a Western perspective, I imagine the Chinese party has much more control over power and profile in their country. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide WeAreOceans's signature Hide all signatures On 4/10/2019 at 12:26 PM, chenGOD said: Stoked to watch OA II. The movement thing never bothered me, anyone familiar with Druidic studies will recognize the importance of movement to get to higher planes. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Okay, so the answer lies in Signalling Theory (Credit is a social signal) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory The TL;DR punchline is that if/when signals no longer represent actual merit, they will lose credibility (and thus impact) So if there were some way to decouple the signal from what it's meant to represent... Something like widespread hacking that arbitrarily changes scores Or a sufficiently-large movement of people purposefully getting low scores... Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Edited December 21, 2015 by LimpyLoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 what about all the people who don't have access to the internet? i would imagine this is a hell of a lot of the rural population of china Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/21/2015 at 12:39 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said: how about 1bil people working together to install a democratic government That can be Plan A But we might wanna think about a Plan B... Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 We need to come to a solution here before sundown. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreOceans Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/21/2015 at 12:39 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said: On 12/21/2015 at 12:26 PM, LimpyLoo said: Can anyone think of a counter-strategy to Sesame Credit? Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo how about 1bil people working together to install a democratic government something something tyranny of the majority *goes to shitpost on a libertarian forum* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide WeAreOceans's signature Hide all signatures On 4/10/2019 at 12:26 PM, chenGOD said: Stoked to watch OA II. The movement thing never bothered me, anyone familiar with Druidic studies will recognize the importance of movement to get to higher planes. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/21/2015 at 12:46 PM, Friendly Foil said: We need to come to a solution here before sundown. Foil I love how you have absolutely nothing of value to say, ever (Besides mocking others who might do, of course) Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) It must be difficult to have all posts be directed at you alone, mocking you, the sole voice of reason at the center of the universe, forever and ever. Edited December 21, 2015 by Friendly Foil Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roasty Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 we're gonna solve china up in this thread, stop shitposting Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) On 12/21/2015 at 12:26 PM, LimpyLoo said: Can anyone think of a counter-strategy to Sesame Credit? Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo In my honest opinion there is nothing we can do and as soon as this hits the western world we will embrace it like we embrace any 1984 type of shit they trow at us. CISPA is now the law of the land, nobody cared nobody gave a shit and nobody gives a shit, its sad. Edited December 21, 2015 by Deer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Sorry, I was just spitballing It won't happen again Sent from my pee-pee using poo-poo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89567-sesame-credit-new-social-control-tool-in-china/#findComment-2403355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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