Squee Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Long story short:I had a long talk with a colleague of mine, who is also a sound engineer, who told me that a lot of sound cards can't play 48kHz - 24bit audio files? This sounds completely weird to me and my first thought was that this guy hadn’t upgraded his sound card since the good old Sound Blaster Live 16bit days. Normally, I'd brush it off and ignore a statement like that but for some reason I started questioning my own knowledge about this.Am I completely out of the onboard sound card loop or is he talking nonsense? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 i can't name a single one that can't play at the 48/24 level. even my oldes spare card the m-audio's fast track pro with usb 1.1 goes up to 96/24. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitze Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yeah, close thread please. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Never heard of such a thing. Unless he's using 80s gear. Edited January 4, 2016 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Thanks, that's ALL I needed to hear :) Sometimes people can be so stubborn and persistent that you get in doubt about the most basic things. Thanks, guys! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unteleportedman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) On 1/4/2016 at 8:58 PM, xox said: i can't name a single one that can't play at the 48/24 level. even my oldes spare card the m-audio's fast track pro with usb 1.1 goes up to 96/24. On 1/4/2016 at 9:18 PM, Gocab said: Never heard of such a thing. Unless he's using 80s gear. My yamaha audiogram 3 can only do 16-bit/44.1Khz (I thought I've been able to change it or gets auto set to 48Khz before though). it works good though, would be interested in having something that would enable me to listen to 24 bit to see if it would really make a huge difference (im guessing more higher and lower frequencies etc. would be more present?). Would be open to suggestions for something similar to audiogram 3 (it is small and simple). Edited January 5, 2016 by unteleportedman Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 On 1/5/2016 at 4:10 PM, unteleportedman said: On 1/4/2016 at 8:58 PM, xox said: i can't name a single one that can't play at the 48/24 level. even my oldes spare card the m-audio's fast track pro with usb 1.1 goes up to 96/24. On 1/4/2016 at 9:18 PM, Gocab said: Never heard of such a thing. Unless he's using 80s gear. My yamaha audiogram 3 can only do 16-bit/44.1Khz (I thought I've been able to change it or gets auto set to 48Khz before though). it works good though, would be interested in having something that would enable me to listen to 24 bit to see if it would really make a huge difference (im guessing more higher and lower frequencies etc. would be more present?). Would be open to suggestions for something similar to audiogram 3 (it is small and simple). Man, that's weird. So you're not able to play 48kHz - 24 bit files? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 If you go back maybe 6 years it was still pretty common for latptops' on board audio hardware to only handle 16 bit audio, actually, but 24/96 is pretty standard these days. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b born droid Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Maybe he's confused with the playback software? I've had countless problems getting Windows Media Player to play some 24 bit files. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide b born droid's signature Hide all signatures spotify soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unteleportedman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 On 1/5/2016 at 4:34 PM, Squee said: On 1/5/2016 at 4:10 PM, unteleportedman said: On 1/4/2016 at 8:58 PM, xox said: i can't name a single one that can't play at the 48/24 level. even my oldes spare card the m-audio's fast track pro with usb 1.1 goes up to 96/24. On 1/4/2016 at 9:18 PM, Gocab said: Never heard of such a thing. Unless he's using 80s gear. My yamaha audiogram 3 can only do 16-bit/44.1Khz (I thought I've been able to change it or gets auto set to 48Khz before though). it works good though, would be interested in having something that would enable me to listen to 24 bit to see if it would really make a huge difference (im guessing more higher and lower frequencies etc. would be more present?). Would be open to suggestions for something similar to audiogram 3 (it is small and simple). Man, that's weird. So you're not able to play 48kHz - 24 bit files? Nope, only at 16 bit. Not sure what happens when you try playing anything 24 bit on it, I assume it just gets compressed down to 16 bit but I am not an expert on this. See the specifications tab on this page: http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/music-production/interfaces/audiogram_series/audiogram3/?mode=model Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 On the laptop I use to go online (a modest ASUS from about 4 years ago), the onboard sound hardware can't actually change its bitrate automaticaly, you have to manually choose the bitrate and then it converts other rates on the fly. It works fine if you set it to 24 bit, but it defaults to 16 bit and its 24 - 16 bit conversion sounds TERRIBLE, so if you just keep it set to the default like almost everyone would, 24 bit audio sounds worse than 16 bit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 On 1/5/2016 at 4:10 PM, unteleportedman said: would be interested in having something that would enable me to listen to 24 bit to see if it would really make a huge difference (im guessing more higher and lower frequencies etc. would be more present?). there's no audible difference, it's mostly for mixing quality/headroom purposes if this post is correct: http://www.head-fi.org/t/415361/24bit-vs-16bit-the-myth-exploded ..and I assume it is, since not only have I never been able to tell the difference between 16 and 24 bit audio, but nobody is even able to show me a proper analysis when I request one.. but that's an argument for another thread :D Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89682-soundcards-that-cant-play-48khz-24bit-files/#findComment-2407334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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