Guest Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 made a Mac app for the Elektron Analog Rytm: it's a sample transfer tool, replacing Elektron's c6. Twice as fast, and lets you drag & drop files directly to the pads. It also works with any random files, pretty cool with photoshop files for instance. View on App Store Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
digman Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Amazing if it works - very interested in trying this out! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 here's a very rough demo video (prerelease version): elektronauts thread: http://www.elektronauts.com/topics/view/18093/147423/page:4#147423 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digman Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 How does the connection work - does it transfer via USB or Midi? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 it's MIDI via USB :) sample transfer happens in the MIDI Sample Dump Standard protocol - hence the name. c6 does it the same but I do it faster & more reliable. the kit-assignment is done via reverse-engineered MIDI SysEx messages. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 hang on... so what happens when you drop an image file on a pad? do you just get a noise burst or something? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) depends. :) "noise burst" is relative - for many people, they would say that it's just noise yes. the app just reads the file byte by byte, and each byte is interpreted as a single sample point. (signed byte, leading bit is the sign) Thus, the results vary quite a bit between different files. But the overall feel is not unlike oldschool dial-up modem sounds. Here's what my Safari browser cache sounds like: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://cl.ly/2K2c1Z3z0W1n/cache.mp3 One thing I can say is that compressed file formats tend to be close to uniform white-noise. Apparently, compression algorithms will make data appear random. But even these almost-noise files have some color to them and make good hi hats :D But a lot of files do sound quite interesting - and if you want to use image pixels to actually shape a sound, you need to have an uncompressed format such as bmp or tiff. Best with 8bits per pixel (256 shades of grey). You can use the file as a wavetable essentially... Edited February 5, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) - Edited February 5, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 PCX screenshots from the original DOS version of Doom make good menacing sounds, almost like a distorted guitar. In fact, I used them as distorted guitar sounds in my first tracker files in the mid-late 90s. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 2:05 PM, modey said: I used them as distorted guitar sounds in my first tracker files in the mid-late 90s.I used to use other tracker files as sounds in my tracker days. Trackerception. Used to sound just like Gescom's RMI Corporate ID 2: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag https://geo-samples.beatport.com/lofi/360881.LOFI.mp3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 2:05 PM, modey said: PCX screenshots from the original DOS version of Doom make good menacing sounds, almost like a distorted guitar. In fact, I used them as distorted guitar sounds in my first tracker files in the mid-late 90s. that sounds great! so this would work with a DOS emulator...? here's a Java file which turned out guitarish: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50830178/R.java.mp3 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 and here's Sonic the Hedgehog for SEGA Genesis: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50830178/Sonic.md.mp3 (listen to the end!) On 2/5/2016 at 2:12 PM, mcbpete said: On 2/5/2016 at 2:05 PM, modey said: I used them as distorted guitar sounds in my first tracker files in the mid-late 90s.I used to use other tracker files as sounds in my tracker days. Trackerception. Used to sound just like Gescom's RMI Corporate ID 2: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag https://geo-samples.beatport.com/lofi/360881.LOFI.mp3 das cool! so what are tracker files - basically lists of music events, but also they contain samples? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Pretty much. I think I did the trackerception thing as well, good times :D You could use a DOS emulator, yeah, vanilla Doom will still make PCX screenshots. Actually that makes me think about using Doom screenshots converted to audio for some DETHWAVE.. Edited February 5, 2016 by modey Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) sounds like a dece idea. I'm gonna check out that Doom. Just implemented a new thing for the app (next version), so you can drag URLs from your browser into it and it will download & convert whatever is behind the URL. aka you can load the internet into your drum machine ;] Edited February 6, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 wow that's awesome, nice one! Elektron really need to up their software game (or hire you, heh) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 yeah - some nice textures can come out of data files. esp. if you chop them up and take out the interesting bits. it would be interesting if you could 'vocode' one data file against another at the data level. or use a second data file to generate 'slides' in the first data file (like how you can put slides in the elektron sequencer to smoothly move from one locked parameter to another. the logic would be something like: 1. load data file a. 2. load data file b. 3. set length of data file b to data file a. 4. when the data in file b crosses a certain threshold, set a 'start slide' marker in data file a. 5. when the data in file b falls below a certain threshold set an 'end slide' marker in data file a. 6. render out data file a as an audio file with the generated slides. ...or maybe even better, use a dropped data file to warp whatever audio file already is loaded into the pad using similar logic. so a snare hit or whatever would get scrambled/filtered by the data file dropped on top of it. i can't code ( other than max/msp) so please feel free to take these ideas and implement them in your app somehow if you like. i would def. buy your app if i had a rytm. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2416980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 this sounds like a good idea, no idea how it would sound. :D tbh it might be a bit much for this app, could be a job for another thing which is specifically for messing with files... tried the pcx format - wasn't able to export screenshots from Doom in pcx, just png. but imagemagick to the rescue. this plain bitmap format is pretty cool. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2417267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) i'm more interested on what eq/notching/etc. would sound like on an image file Edit: look like Edited February 7, 2016 by Ragnar Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2417270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 hmm... I've tried this some years ago, converted image pixels to wav, then processed with audio FX, then converted back. The result was not unlike certain image convolution filters such as edge detection. reverb, delay, distortion, it was all interesting. a high-pass filter is pretty much edge-detection. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2417272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Awesome, phling! You really put the in-house software development at Elektron to shame. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2417292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendish Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 i hope they offer u a job Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2417297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 thanks! well this is a real simple app - I mean sure, one has to wonder why they never improved upon c6, would be a few days worth of work. But Overbridge is another story, looks like they engineered the entire communications with the machines from scratch, it's not a trivial piece of software. working for them - not sure if it would be a lot of fun working on Overbridge, seems complex AF with lots and lots of issues & no real end in sight, it could be a rather frustrating grind... and for working on the machines themselves, not sure if I've got the chops for that... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2417515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendish Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 you're in cdm today http://createdigitalmusic.com/2016/02/this-app-gives-elektron-analog-rytm-drag-and-drop-sample-loading/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2418221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 yea - good times, cheers! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2418459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 1.0.4 is out has bulk transfer but my fav+ thing is that you can now drag browser URLs directly to pads e.g. drag the preview mp3s here: http://sampleswap.org/filebrowser-new.php?d=DRUMS+%28FULL+KITS%29%2FR8+drumkit%2F or try Facebook.com boom. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/89919-sds-drop/#findComment-2419172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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