Polytrix Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Hello! I've got a zoom mic and like recording sounds outside..especially due to the available materials. So I know the roof is fucked but I put the walls back as they were with all the corrugated iron I found..wood/bricks etc. Should I focus on removing the gaps in the walls to kind of soundproof it/improve acoustics when recording inside it. I can't make loads of noise right now in my house and this is just a 5 min walk away...there are some plastic cones around and I've been trying to find good ways to position a mic/wonder about what would be the best recording spot in here for maybe acoustic guitar or sound coming out of a speaker and recording the effect of the ambiance etc. It's also just loads of sound making options right...weird perc. What should I do next? It's actually quite a nice little space. Cheers Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricone RC Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Wank in it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 cross that off the to-do list then Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Do you live in Fiji and the neighbours just came into a nice apartment in heaven ? (There was a bloody great cyclone, second strongest winds on record). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I live in the UK and this is a field. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 If you sacrifice a person that might improve the acoustics. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 On 3/3/2016 at 10:35 PM, Polytrix said: I live in the UK and this is a field. Do you have weather proof gear ? Maybe make it a spot to bbq and have a couple of beers. On 3/3/2016 at 11:58 PM, Braintree said: If you sacrifice a person that might improve the acoustics. what if they haunt the lean to/horse shelter after that. Spose you've gotta take the good with the bad. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Leave it as is. *That* is your recording space. Congrats on finding a makeshift shelter if you become homeless! In seriousness, though, I don't think there is much that can be done acoustically with it. If you are looking to make a reverb room with metal walls then that would be pretty cool for a one-off, but anything else is unfeasable. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Thank you for your responses. Yes, I think it might be most interesting to turn it into a reverb room...generally it's just a space I can smash fuck out of stuff and record the consequent sounds in an interesting space. For the reverb room, is it more a case of filling all the gaps in the walls with more corrugated iron and then playing around with mic positioning?? Deffo a nice spot for a little fire. I think I may have made a homeless person happy. Edited March 4, 2016 by Polytrix Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 3/3/2016 at 11:58 PM, Braintree said: If you sacrifice a person that might improve the acoustics. lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Clap your hands, pop a balloon or play a white noise burst (least to most desirable) and record both inside and out and then use it as a nice impulse recording to save the effort of you having to lug stuff out there to record it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 i think it could do with: a: walls b: floor c: roof Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 place explosives & record the drop. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 3/4/2016 at 12:30 PM, BCM said: i think it could do with: a: walls b: floor c: roof LOL Yes! Why didn't I think of that. There was only one makeshift wall when I started clearing it so I think it's OK in comparison to what it was before. On 3/4/2016 at 10:58 AM, mcbpete said: Clap your hands, pop a balloon or play a white noise burst (least to most desirable) and record both inside and out and then use it as a nice impulse recording to save the effort of you having to lug stuff out there to record it. When you say impulse recording, do you mean record the sound of what the white noise makes? Isn't that just a normal recording of white noise plus reverb? How do you get just the reverb so yeah, I can use it without going out again? THANK YOU On 3/4/2016 at 12:45 PM, Djeroek said: place explosives & record the drop. Way to make homemade explosives? I was thinking of taking an axe/pitch fork down there and just breaking up shit and recording that too. Shite weather right now though so I need to chose a good moment. I need to properly plug all the gaps in the walls/roof right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 3/4/2016 at 1:42 PM, Polytrix said: When you say impulse recording, do you mean record the sound of what the white noise makes? Isn't that just a normal recording of white noise plus reverb? How do you get just the reverb so yeah, I can use it without going out again? THANK YOU convolute that shit! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 3/4/2016 at 1:42 PM, Polytrix said: When you say impulse recording, do you mean record the sound of what the white noise makes? Isn't that just a normal recording of white noise plus reverb? How do you get just the reverb so yeah, I can use it without going out again?Yeah exactly: record a quick blast of white noise (a popped balloon gives an approximation), trim it so the sample starts from just as the noise starts until the reverb has completely died out, then just drag that sample into a convolution reverb VST (some DAWs have them built in but if not there's a free one here - https://osdn.jp/projects/freeverb3vst/ ) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 human sacrifice definitely in order. http://thespongeman.ytmnd.com/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Regarding convolution mcbpete, when you say trim the samples, does that need to include the actual sound of the balloon popping ie should i shave off the initial attack? Also, why take recordings inside and outside? Surely just the inside is needed for the reverb of the metal walled space? Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Ah yeah, sorry wasn't completely clear - Trim it from the loudest bit of the *bang* to the final decay. This will tell the convolution reverb how the different frequencies decay over time. I was only suggesting both outside and inside recordings so you could capture both what sounds are like inside the place, and also how sounds react outside to the metal reflective material itself Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digman Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yeah girl, come check out my studio. Its in a field just out back Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Well, thanks for help regarding impulse responses...that's cool thanks. I actually have a better place now. Disused farm storage warehouse/hangar.. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk Avec roof walls and doors Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 recording outdoors for me is about increasing variables. that goes for any uncontrolled recording space. i don't really believe in pristine recording environments or learning "proven" processes. i embrace chaos as much as i can. as for an outside space to record, what really matters to me is how you connect w/ it. if it's private, isolated, has a good vibe, next to a creek/in a field/whatever, recording there, but also using it as a head space shaper--that will gift a lot to your work. the trick is getting good enough at the basics of processing audio and emphasizing/isolating what you need. if i didn't record in a chaotic environment i wouldn't have the ideas i do. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2424994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I had a greenhouse two years back that I used to grow tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers and... Specialty roses.... in. Composing tracks in there at night until my laptop battery died was nice aside from the onslaught of humidity and whiteflies attracted to the glowing thing. Give yourself a few pentagrams, mock up a good throne and sacrifice alter (coincidentally both are oddly satisfying ways of saying toilet innit?) and start making some tunes from samples of rusted metal. Girls love spaces like these; something very cozy and non-life-threatening about it, ya know. On 3/4/2016 at 2:20 PM, thanks robert moses said: human sacrifice definitely in order. http://thespongeman.ytmnd.com/ Iol spongeman sacrifice-pants. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Audioblysk's signature Hide all signatures "You could always do a Thoreau and walden your ass into a forest." - chenGOD ##### | (.) (.) ] | < / | O / ----- Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2425115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 glad to hear you've now got roof walls and doors Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2425156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Yeah, I've actually got a proper spot now...will upload some photos..there might be gypsies living there. It's like a farmers storage unit with just a slide up door. This sounds lame maybe but I liked the idea of trying my hand at a bit of spraypainting also...but then that's probably a bit too vandal like for me...could be fun though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90125-help-me-build-and-utilize-an-outdoors-recording-space-ive-found/#findComment-2425310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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