mtsaintaphex Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Hi guys, I'm trying to "recreate" the synth on Alberto Balsalm. Anyone have any ideas as to how it was done? Being a beginner (please don't go to hard on me) only things I think I hear is a combination of quite low and high frequencies and a little chorus. I hope you guys have some ideas! Thanks! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I tried to do this a while back and I don't think you'd need anything fancy. I wouldn't bother with the chorus, the reverb soak and the filter modulation (especially the envelope changes) seems to be the trick. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2438548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsaintaphex Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Thanks for the insights! I'll see what I can do with my Boutique JU-06 :p Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2438646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 We had a thread about sheet music for this awhile back... http://forum.watmm.com/topic/69727-alberto-balsalm-sheet-music/ And here are some guitar tabs of Aphex Twin songs, including Alberto Balsam: http://www.echoesofmars.com/aphex_tabs/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2438911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaggerMcGuirk Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Definitely a polysynth. Sounds like it was run through a flanger and a filter. Beyond that, it's probably infused with ancient magic or something. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BaggerMcGuirk's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2438929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudenorth Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I get sounds a lot like Alberto balsam when I jam with U-he Diva using the roland JP-8 templates, its got that feel to it... try dialing in a 2osc pluck sound with a mild filter env and then modulate cutoff and res by hand. thats how i imagine this was done. Kinda sounds like a Korg mono/poly or poly 6 though too... let us know how you fair and post your results! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2438932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Quote Definitely a polysynth. Sounds like it was run through a flanger and a filter. Beyond that, it's probably infused with ancient magic or something. Anyone know the best VST for ancient magic? Edited April 25, 2016 by Brisbot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 what a track Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pizza's signature Hide all signatures Dr. Oetker (it's pronounced AW-TEK-ER) IDM spokesperson. http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/589f74646d7b2-pizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzza-with-fork.php Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Sounds like it could be FM, though? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 i always though it could be some ensoniq (sq80?) or analog poly with xmod (jx8p?) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) My guess is its a sample library synth from his Casio FZ1 with the filter and velocity used. The filter sounds FZ1ish to me. The metal snare sound, kik and sissors (hats) sound like the FZ1 also and the looping voice is lofi FZ1 sounding. You could change the sample rate of the FZ1 to get a grainner sound eg the looping voice. 3192 3195 Edited April 26, 2016 by amni Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide amnesia's signature Hide all signatures http://www.vicmod.net/catalog.html http://www.vicmod.net/ https://www.youtube.com/user/cray56 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I cant edit my response above but SAW2 heavily features the Casio FZ1 or(10m) in Richard's case. Some synth sounds are FZ1 loads of drums and vocals are fz1 so I dont see why Alberto isnt as well. 3186 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide amnesia's signature Hide all signatures http://www.vicmod.net/catalog.html http://www.vicmod.net/ https://www.youtube.com/user/cray56 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 On 4/26/2016 at 11:30 PM, amni said: My guess is its a sample library synth from his Casio FZ1 with the filter and velocity used. The filter sounds FZ1ish to me. The metal snare sound, kik and sissors (hats) sound like the FZ1 also and the looping voice is lofi FZ1 sounding. You could change the sample rate of the FZ1 to get a grainner sound eg the looping voice. 3192 3195 Yes I agree. Didn't he say he kept most of his gear at his folks and would record sample libraries when he was visiting? Think that coincides with icbyd times. As for synth samples, I vote some kind of roland jx or mks. The sampling was for space/convenience tho I reckon, you could recreate this just on a poly, or get close anyway. Keep experimenting :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Toffer Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 On 4/26/2016 at 11:38 PM, amni said: I cant edit my response above but SAW2 heavily features the Casio FZ1 or(10m) in Richard's case. Some synth sounds are FZ1 loads of drums and vocals are fz1 so I dont see why Alberto isnt as well. 3186 which vocals are u talking about are FZ1? Any example track? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2439913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 On 4/27/2016 at 12:47 PM, Chris Toffer said: On 4/26/2016 at 11:38 PM, amni said: I cant edit my response above but SAW2 heavily features the Casio FZ1 or(10m) in Richard's case. Some synth sounds are FZ1 loads of drums and vocals are fz1 so I dont see why Alberto isnt as well. 3186 which vocals are u talking about are FZ1? Any example track? All the female voices sound FZ1/ filter. I doubt they are library sounds more his own sounds. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide amnesia's signature Hide all signatures http://www.vicmod.net/catalog.html http://www.vicmod.net/ https://www.youtube.com/user/cray56 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2440449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killabyte11 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) I do see a correlation in the types of sounds used on ICBYD and SAWII. The great thing about Aphex Twin's music is although some of the sounds such as the synth in Alberto sound like standard poly stuff, you'd be hard pressed to mimic the sound exactly. Let me know if you can, I'd be interested to hear it. On a side note I recently picked up an FZ-10M for cheap....based pretty much solely on it's use by AFX. It was also used by Reload on their - collection of short stories album which I think is pretty cool as well. Edited April 30, 2016 by killabyte11 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2440665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 i have it on good authority the synth in question is a Yamaha Jupiter Cool with a David Smyth Outer Space Echo Compressor. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2440669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 lush thanks Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2440673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 On 4/30/2016 at 5:33 AM, killabyte11 said: I do see a correlation in the types of sounds used on ICBYD and SAWII. The great thing about Aphex Twin's music is although some of the sounds such as the synth in Alberto sound like standard poly stuff, you'd be hard pressed to mimic the sound exactly. Let me know if you can, I'd be interested to hear it. On a side note I recently picked up an FZ-10M for cheap....based pretty much solely on it's use by AFX. It was also used by Reload on their - collection of short stories album which I think is pretty cool as well. Hangable Autobulb, ABB5 and the Ventolin remixes, too, I think, all of which was my favorite era of Aphex. What kind of deal did you get on the FZ-10m? Does it have that same kind of weird dry tone the Aphex stuff has? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2440679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killabyte11 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 On 4/30/2016 at 6:16 AM, sweepstakes said: Hangable Autobulb, ABB5 and the Ventolin remixes, too, I think, all of which was my favorite era of Aphex. What kind of deal did you get on the FZ-10m? Does it have that same kind of weird dry tone the Aphex stuff has? Paid $150 from a seller on ebay. So far I'm loving the character, what comes out almost always sounds a bit different than what I sampled in....in a good way. The filter is multi stage so it's different than your average filter and definitely has an interesting quality to it. Here is a bit of info on that...http://www.buchty.net/casio/dcf.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2440687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 On 4/25/2016 at 2:54 AM, Brisbot said: Quote Definitely a polysynth. Sounds like it was run through a flanger and a filter. Beyond that, it's probably infused with ancient magic or something. Anyone know the best VST for ancient magic? Necronomicon vst Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90505-alberto-balsalm-synth/#findComment-2441030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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