Joyrex Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/06/508501366/norway-will-be-first-country-to-shut-down-fm-network-go-all-digital Quote The Norwegian government also says that digital radio is less likely to fail in extreme conditions, which lawmakers saw as an advantage for emergency preparedness.The CEO of Digitalradio Norway says the country's FM network is antiquated and would need massive investments to maintain — so, to allow investment in digital radio, the FM network needs to be shut down. But NPR's Frank Langfitt reports that the public in general isn't happy about the decision to abandon FM entirely. "A recent poll shows that two-thirds of Norwegians are against ditching FM," he reports. "Among the concerns: people may miss warnings for emergencies that are broadcast on FM. "In addition, two million cars in Norway — a country of just five million people — don't have digital audio broadcasting receivers."A digital adapter for an FM car radio costs about $170." Reuters reports that the shutdown of FM signals will begin in the northern city of Bodø on Jan. 11, and extend across the country by the end of the year. Some local stations, however, will continue to transmit over FM signals until 2022, The Local reports. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Oh course it's a Scandinavian country that's stuck 20 years in the future compared to the rest of the world. For better or for worse I suppose. Edited January 6, 2017 by Brisbot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Looking forward to 20 years from now when we'll go back to FM for the "warmer sound". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pizza's signature Hide all signatures Dr. Oetker (it's pronounced AW-TEK-ER) IDM spokesperson. http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/589f74646d7b2-pizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzza-with-fork.php Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 We're dumping a few million perfectly good radios the coming 12 months, come and get them! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I dumped mine i 1995. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pizza's signature Hide all signatures Dr. Oetker (it's pronounced AW-TEK-ER) IDM spokesperson. http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/589f74646d7b2-pizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzza-with-fork.php Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Makes sense. It would be like the transition from VHS to DVDs at the turn of the millennium. The world can eventually phase out FM radio, so long as we keep FM synthesis. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 News from the 90s? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Will this open up the FM bands for pirate radio stations? Would be cool if a new scene emerges. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 6:39 PM, user said: Will this open up the FM bands for pirate radio stations? Would be cool if a new scene emerges. that'd be interesting Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 6:39 PM, user said: Will this open up the FM bands for pirate radio stations? Would be cool if a new scene emerges. Maintaining the FM transmitters is apparently expensive as hell, on the scale of a few hundred million NOK a year IIRC. So unfortunately no. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:06 PM, psn said: On 1/6/2017 at 6:39 PM, user said: Will this open up the FM bands for pirate radio stations? Would be cool if a new scene emerges. Maintaining the FM transmitters is apparently expensive as hell, on the scale of a few hundred million NOK a year IIRC. So unfortunately no. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 LW is the coolest band Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 This will probably happen worldwide in time. Sad to see FM go. Such an amazing format. How about AM? The home of shortwave communications, numbers stations, spooky EVP transmissions. As a kid I was blown away to be able to listen to stations from half the world away. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 8:09 PM, chim said: This will probably happen worldwide in time. Sad to see FM go. Such an amazing format. How about AM? The home of shortwave communications, numbers stations, spooky EVP transmissions. As a kid I was blown away to be able to listen to stations from half the world away. Yeah I'm wondering about this too. I suppose with FM and perhaps AM stations eventually going away, will those frequencies be opened up for radio operators/enthusiasts? The idea of pirate radio and people using old tuners/radios seems fun. I'd be bummed if they go all digital here in the states TBH all of my radios and tuners at home are old thrift store finds. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Personally I can't stand FM anymore as HD radio sounds so much clearer and better - I can always tell when my car radio switches from HD to FM when the HD signal gets blocked occasionally. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricone RC Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 10:59 PM, Joyrex said: when the HD signal gets blocked occasionally. which happens because most digital stuff runs on higher frequencies, so it doesn't travel as far and doesn't penetrate buildings and other obstacles nearly as well. Might be clearer, but you need to be able to receive it to start with! Seems a bit "Cash for Clunkers" upgrading for its own sake to me, don't really see the point in actually shutting down FM transmitters unless there are massive savings to be made from doing so Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 11:07 PM, Tricone RC said: On 1/6/2017 at 10:59 PM, Joyrex said: when the HD signal gets blocked occasionally. which happens because most digital stuff runs on higher frequencies, so it doesn't travel as far and doesn't penetrate buildings and other obstacles nearly as well. Might be clearer, but you need to be able to receive it to start with! Seems a bit "Cash for Clunkers" upgrading for its own sake to me, don't really see the point in actually shutting down FM transmitters unless there are massive savings to be made from doing so I'm going to guess freeing up the radio frequency bands is one of the reasons. Digital transfer generally requires less bandwidht than the analog modulation. Plus you can compress the data to require even less. And since every communication is becoming wireless the free frequency bands are badly needed. Also the government can sell the licenses for the bands that have been freed to make some money. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Sumbitches Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) The only Norwegian radio you actually need is Raaadio Fenriiiiiiiiiiz On 1/6/2017 at 5:51 PM, pizza said: Looking forward to 20 years from now when we'll go back to FM for the "warmer sound". lol Edited January 7, 2017 by Leon Sumbitches Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Leon Sumbitches's signature Hide all signatures Rain Over Mountain is out now; 100% of Bandcamp sales are donated to the Motor Neurone Disease Association: https://tanizaki.bandcamp.com/album/rain-over-mountain Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenton Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 pirates still run FM transmitters in the uk [sometimes covering the whole of london etc] - so i am sure Norway can too more likely or not they'll sell the bandwidth in the fm spectrum to telecomms so it will be full of netflix and facebook data rather than idm. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fenton's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWwIShuoX4 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2515679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/92357-norway-is-abandoning-fm-and-going-all-digital/#findComment-2521795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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