Auditor Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) A thought occurred… these are two of the most interesting successful electronic groups to me. I won’t say I love them both equally, but we’ll get to that... BoC and (late) Autechre are almost polar opposites in my view, yet they share much of the same fanbase. To me, Autechre evokes images and feelings of armageddon, or a dystopia, brought on by soulless robots/AI, or that computer in I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream (an amazing novella if you haven't read it). On the other hand, BoC evokes images of armageddon, or a dystopia, brought about by a malevolent force that is organic or god-like…maybe like something out of a Lovecraft story. This is why I say they are almost polar opposites, because they both bring about feelings of destruction, or a birth/rebirth of something sinister. Now, my personal preference between BoC and (late) Autechre leans towards BoC more often than not. Yet, when I think about it, armageddon brought on by technology is far more interesting/palpable/scary to me than one brought about by a fleshy/spiritual malevolent force (although, the thought of a cult leader leading the world to ruin is even more interesting, and BoC are all about their cults!). I think the reason I prefer BoC on the daily has to do with the fact that I simply like more danceable/head noddy beats than later Autechre tend to give us. Still, I find Autechre just as interesting (sometimes more so) as BoC. Shit, you know what? I had a point…and now it’s gone. Goddamn it... I guess I’ll just ask what you thoughts are on the two groups, and whether they evoke similar or dissimilar feelings in you. Do you tend to prefer one or the other? Anyone seen my lost point? (I was originally thinking of titling the thread “BoC vs. Autechre”, but quickly realized what a terrible idea that would be) Edited April 27, 2017 by Auditor Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennylogg Bubblebath Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 This thread has made me realise that I (subconsciously) tend to listen to BoC in the day and Autechre at night, very rarely the other way round. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 4/27/2017 at 9:54 PM, valleyinaire said: This thread has made me realise that I (subconsciously) tend to listen to BoC in the day and Autechre at night, very rarely the other way round. You know what, that might be a big reason why I listen to BoC more. I tend to listen to the most music during the day, while walking through the woods. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamovich Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Why late Autechre? What happened to early ambient stuff? Is it also apocalyptic and robotic? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adamovich's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 they both need vocals Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) On 4/27/2017 at 9:54 PM, valleyinaire said: This thread has made me realise that I (subconsciously) tend to listen to BoC in the day and Autechre at night, very rarely the other way round. That's bizarre, I don't think I've ever played BoC much (hardly ever) at night either.... Never realised that before Edited April 27, 2017 by beerwolf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 To me Autechre's music isn't really dystopic most of the time. Abstract, yes, but not like malevolent or soulless. For example to me Quaristice and Oversteps are optimistic and positive most of the time. Elseq has pretty feel good moments towards the last parts also. Autechre's music has more like this kind of unquantifiable depth that makes it feel almost spiritual. Also BoC's music has this same kind of depth but it's colored a bit differently. It's less abstract and down to earth and more attached to human intuitive thinking and symbolism. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I don;t think BoC and Ae are all the opposite, certainly not polar opposites. Wormrot is a bit more opposite of BoC... this: compared to this: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Wormrot is awesome. I've always thought that Autechre sounds very cold and mechanical whereas Boards of Canada sounds more organic and human. BOC's music tends to be a lot more emotive. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yeah, I mean Autechre and Rebecca Black are polar opposites. I guess I meant in the "idm" genre they seem to dominate opposite sides of the coin, but operate in the same universe...if that makes any sense. I get completely different vibes from each group, yet they are both infinitely fascinating and I listen to both a lot. And I discounted Ae's earlier stuff just because a lot of it is a tad more similar to BoC. Once they each fully developed their "sound", the differences became more significant. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernFusion Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/27/2017 at 10:06 PM, Friendly Foil said: they both need emotion Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide NorthernFusion's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keanu reeves Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 if i ever read "soulless robot music without emotion" to describe electronic music again, especially written by fans of that music, well, i just might close my browser and go outside. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keanu reeves's signature Hide all signatures Hi Beno Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpeg Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I've felt those AI warfare moments too, like on Surripere, a rich fabric of terror and wonder.But 'chre's music encompasses so much breadth of emotion. More range than BoC. What I think they have in common is psychedelia, in exploring those depths of consciousness with texture and everything outside the boundaries of speech. They each go off in different directions toward a similar goal. Mining the psyche. Autechre is way more explorative tho. BoC taps that alternate history childhood stuff heavily. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 autechre sound like robot bleep dink donk no soul ?????? sound like machine boc nice and music-y Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 7:52 AM, keanu reeves said: if i ever read "soulless robot music without emotion" to describe electronic music again, especially written by fans of that music, well, i just might close my browser and go outside. Not saying the music is soulless, just that much of it evokes images of technological apocalypse, imo. On 4/28/2017 at 9:01 AM, Rpeg said: I've felt those AI warfare moments too, like on Surripere, a rich fabric of terror and wonder. But 'chre's music encompasses so much breadth of emotion. More range than BoC. What I think they have in common is psychedelia, in exploring those depths of consciousness with texture and everything outside the boundaries of speech. They each go off in different directions toward a similar goal. Mining the psyche. Autechre is way more explorative tho. BoC taps that alternate history childhood stuff heavily. I think you're right. Autechre definitely go a little further with sound design and such. I hope they include some more melodies on future releases. That's the main thing I think is missing from a chunk of their newer stuff. Sometimes I am totally in the mood for it though, and it kills. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 with all of the futuristic imagery and vibes Autechre evoke, much of what pleases me is that they come close to mimicking (or conjuring the feeling of) action and detail of unhinged music, like the most enjoyable free jazz (excited percussive stumbling etc.), or even natural phenomena (like weather) - though there are a variety of textures (peeling/splintering metal/electricity etc.) and colors (reverb wafts/clouds etc.) that take it beyond anything else, their music really is singular. I don't get these impressions very much at all from BoC, I enjoy them for other reasons. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93155-boc-autechre-and-musical-polarity/#findComment-2542802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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