Disappearer Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Let's say we've got a vocal sample that goes like: "Drop the bass and rock the house now!" (Just a made-up cheesy example!).The sample lasts 1 bar and the task is to use various rhythmical stutters (looping parts in different time values as all those "glitch" plugins allow), in order to make it sound something like"D-D-D-D-rop the bass aaaaaaannnnndddddd rock-rock-rock-rock-rock-rock the-th-the house noooooooow" which would now cover 4 bars.I've tried various "glitch" plugins (Glitch, Stutter Edit, Sugar Byte's plug ins etc.) as an insert effect in the audio track, but the problem is that while they've got various loop/stutter parameters, after the stuttered/looped word/syllable ends (usually by releasing the midi note which triggers the effect), the vocal sample doesn't resume from this point but from the part the audio file has reached by then, as if the effect never took place.So, If I stutter various points from the "drop" part for like, 2 secs, instead of having "the" coming up, the sample has reached "rock" by then, which also cancels the whole idea of rhythmically extend the sample into 4 bars. Makes sense?I am not trying to get the Akaizer effect (or simple timestretching of course) and I know this is possible by manually cutting up the audio file or process it with a sampler, but all these plugins can do way more complex stuff, so this should be possible? Any ways/settings to enable in those plugins (or a different one, for that matter) to achieve what I want? Thanks. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hello spiral's signature Hide all signatures https://salaamhelicoid.bandcamp.com/ Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbu Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 like this? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncrtx Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) I understand your problem and want to know a solution to it myself. If you want it really rhythmical and it's not live, I think chopping and arranging is the best way. Edited May 7, 2017 by ncrtx Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ncrtx's signature Hide all signatures https://caoutchou.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendish Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 ju ju ju ju ju st st st st ed ed ed ed ed ddddddddddd it it it it it it it itititititititititititit it it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) they manually edit, copy and paste the sample, they don't really have to use plugins Edited May 7, 2017 by david Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disappearer Posted May 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Lol right, I knew I'd get replies like these but WATMM... I don't think the sins I've committed in this life are bad enough to deserve Limp Fucking Bizkit in my thread! I mean, if you wanted to go all 90's on me, you could at least throw this at my direction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAr9TjXoQQQ Yeah, mainstream 90's dnb, but at least better than the shit MTV and the likes play these days... And hey, it stutters! Seriously though, I didn't ask how to be Richard Devine or something, and yes, I do use manual edits as I've said... but I wouldn't mind the additional immediate, multieffect options you can have with a plugin like that, at least when I deal with plain syllable chopping, plus I can't believe something as simple as that is not possible with those plugins... I mean, I hesitated to ask this, thinking it'd be something completely obvious to do with something like Stutter Edit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Throw in simpler use the auto cut up (forget what it's called) and trigger from pads. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Sounds like something you'd do with a tracker. Breakcore people do all that time stretching and stuttering with the drums if I understood correctly. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Yeah it's something that honestly doing 'manual' editing (either using the sample offset command in a tracker environment, or automating a sampler's start position & loop length in a DAW or hardware environment) would give you the most control. The problem with having it as an audio effect plugin is (as you've found) is the buffer would need to dynamically grow whenever you trigger the stutter. Another alternative would be granular synthesis (eg The Mangle http://sound-guru.com/software/mangle/ ) using the sample you want shuffling around Then you can easily do shenanigans like: or Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 hackneyed preset Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 record ur very own stuttered samples Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOS Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 It's weird though.. Like feeding a whole salmon into a meat mincer and expecting it to come out filleted and all. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 use wavesets by trevor wishart. like i did here, Aphex sort of owns this effect though Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 On 5/8/2017 at 5:12 AM, marf said: use wavesets by trevor wishart. Yeah, was going to say there are a bunch of CDP processes that excel at this kinda stuff. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) well, that was made with supercollider. There is a quark for wavesets. Fuck dealing with cdp. Wavesets realtime. Or timestretch then add a gating effect Edited May 8, 2017 by marf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grain Bastard Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 On 5/7/2017 at 5:28 PM, Disappearer said: Let's say we've got a vocal sample that goes like: "Drop the bass and rock the house now!" (Just a made-up cheesy example!).The sample lasts 1 bar and the task is to use various rhythmical stutters (looping parts in different time values as all those "glitch" plugins allow), in order to make it sound something like"D-D-D-D-rop the bass aaaaaaannnnndddddd rock-rock-rock-rock-rock-rock the-th-the house noooooooow" which would now cover 4 bars.I've tried various "glitch" plugins (Glitch, Stutter Edit, Sugar Byte's plug ins etc.) as an insert effect in the audio track, but the problem is that while they've got various loop/stutter parameters, after the stuttered/looped word/syllable ends (usually by releasing the midi note which triggers the effect), the vocal sample doesn't resume from this point but from the part the audio file has reached by then, as if the effect never took place.So, If I stutter various points from the "drop" part for like, 2 secs, instead of having "the" coming up, the sample has reached "rock" by then, which also cancels the whole idea of rhythmically extend the sample into 4 bars. Makes sense?I am not trying to get the Akaizer effect (or simple timestretching of course) and I know this is possible by manually cutting up the audio file or process it with a sampler, but all these plugins can do way more complex stuff, so this should be possible? Any ways/settings to enable in those plugins (or a different one, for that matter) to achieve what I want? Thanks. I think most of the buffer/glitch plugins would need the audio you want to process chopped over the 4-bars you want the effect over and either program the effects onboard sequencer or trigger midi notes to fill in the various effects - so chop the first section and program the stutter accordingly then as it stops processing ad the next phrase or word, repeat the effect trigger addition etc etc - you will struggle to achieve what you want over 4-bars with feeding it a single bar of audio or 4-bars of the same 1-bar loop. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Grain Bastard's signature Hide all signatures http://bewegungrecords.bandcamp.com/https://soundcloud.com/punishahttp://altered-echo.com/ http://weeklybeats.com/#/grainbastard/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93205-how-to-achieve-this-stutterloop-effect/#findComment-2544970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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