pcock Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 im having loads of fun writing some melodic stuff again now ive gotten into the blofeld, but it would be really nice to have another synth so i can do melody and accompaniment similtaneously through my modular automations for it. whats good and fairly cheap? i like presets, i tend to just pick something close to what i want and then fiddle a bit when looking for pads and leads for tuneful stuff. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Another Blofeld? lol but really I can't think of a cheap digital polysynth other than used/decade+old stuff. I'm probably forgetting something I'm sure. Korg Minilogue is probably decently cheap, especially second hand, but it's not digital. Pulse 2 would be a nice complement to the Blofeld I'd think, but it's poly capabilities are very limited and it's analog not digital. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Audiothingies Micromonsta? I've never tried one but I built the P6, their previous generation kit-only version, a few years ago and it's pretty great. This one seems to sound better, has more voices, and allows you to import 30 custom wavetables, comes fully assembled, and only costs a hair above 250€. Apparently these were originally a branch of one of the Mutable Instruments desktop synths (Shruthi probably) but with he firmware massively rewritten to be geared toward more standard polysynth sounds. EDIT: Pretty decent demo of the features. Doesn't actually sound analog like it's apparently supposed to, but sounds good. Edited June 10, 2017 by RSP Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 This is a pretty general request and I'm not sure exactly what you have in mind, but an old Yamaha FM synth (or a volca FM/Reface DX, if you don't want to deal with used) might be fun. FM synths are notoriously annoying to program at first but, especially with a decent editor, are surprisingly expressive once you get the hang of them. The older FM synths have a bit of grit and aliasing that seems like it would nicely complement the clean Blofeld sound. The volca has a bit of this character as well and it also has a dedicated LFO control and some nice envelope macro controls. I defer to the Reface owners (I believe there's at least a couple on this board) for how well its sound would complement the Blofeld. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
th555 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Have you looked at the Blofeld multi mode yet? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide th555's signature Hide all signatures https://www.youtube.com/user/THkaas/videos https://thisjepisje.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/th555 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Multimode is riddled with bugs so it's not that reliable. If you want something to compliment it, the microkorg or a Yamaha AN1x are perfect. They sound alot more earthy, perfect to go alongside the blofeld's cleaner sound. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted June 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 does multimode allow you to play more than one patch at a time? i dont really understand how you would be able to change different parameters similtaneously if thats the case. the audiothingies mircomonsta looks really interesting. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 you can edit one layer at a time for performance and switch between them. pretty sure it's only 25 note poly so depending how complext your patches are you can stack a fair few. It does work in a studio environment but I wouldn;t trust using it live. This should have everything in here Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 6/10/2017 at 9:34 PM, Chesney said: Yamaha AN1x Had to look this one up because I know I'd seen it before but couldn't remember, and of course there's a 45 minute Jexus video demoing it and it's great...beware that he makes everything sound pretty amazing, but nonetheless I had to share the glory. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) yeah man. I think it's one of the best sounding digi's around. Not to be confused with the CS1x. Although that sounds great too, just far less editable, more a sort of a workstation preset keyboard but without the sequencing etc. You can pick them up for cheap too, I sold mine to a local kid for £20. You could also try a novation nova module. Edited June 10, 2017 by Chesney Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted June 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 i forgot to mention i need something either small or rack based. i dont have any space for keyboards, its the reason i unfortunately cant just use my prophet 08. i think i might go for the micromonsta, looks like exactly what i was looking for, 8 voices, 100s of presets, small, and 260 quid. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) A station rack or KS module? Waldorf Q or microwave are amazing but too much overlap with blofeld. Edited June 10, 2017 by Chesney Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) On 6/10/2017 at 7:56 PM, sweepstakes said: This is a pretty general request and I'm not sure exactly what you have in mind, but an old Yamaha FM synth (or a volca FM/Reface DX, if you don't want to deal with used) might be fun. FM synths are notoriously annoying to program at first but, especially with a decent editor, are surprisingly expressive once you get the hang of them. The older FM synths have a bit of grit and aliasing that seems like it would nicely complement the clean Blofeld sound. The volca has a bit of this character as well and it also has a dedicated LFO control and some nice envelope macro controls. I defer to the Reface owners (I believe there's at least a couple on this board) for how well its sound would complement the Blofeld. Yeah, I assumed you meant something new, if old is OK then there are probably literally a few hundred choices out there for not much money. If you want cheap, small and characterful and like presets the Yamaha FB-01 is very cheap (shouldn't be more than $50usd), has a nice grittyness (it's an almost identical FM chip to the one used in a lot of 8s and early90s Sega arcade machines, with a combination of low headroom op amps and excessive lowpass filtering on the outputs that gives it a nice dirtiness none of the DX series stuff quite has, it's completely programmable from a computer, 8 parts multitimbral and small. you could load a bunch of patches in to it and just use it as a preset box, plus the multitibrality makes it easy to use for FM drums, since you can assign 8 different sounds to different ranges on the same channel. Only downside with it (and all the Yamaha FM synths) is that the battery is soldered to the board and uses a pin spacing that's hard to find a battery clip for (although there's an adapter PCB you ca get for a couple dollars to get around that) so it's a bit more of a hassle to change it. A TX81z is always useful, one of the few things I might see myself still getting down the road. I'm a big fan of the Kawai K1/K1m but they seem to be a love/hate thing ad last I heard the prices were too high these days. Mine was a little under $50 on eBay last summer (for the k1m, not the keyboard version) and that seems about right. Roland D-10 is really undervalued because of it's reputation as a lesser version of the D-50 but it's a pretty great sounding synth on its own terms, does some stuff the D-50 can't (and vice versa) and the rack version has 6 assignable outs. CZ series Casios are great and if you don't mind the size a 1000 is usually a lot cheaper than a 101 and is functionally identical, just bigger. All kinds of relatively cheap rack ROMplers floating around, too. None of this stuff should be more expensive than a new Volca, even if you have to get it on eBay (except the CZ-101, and I guess the 81z sometimes gets up near $200 these days but they're still common and you should be able to find one for less easily). Edited June 10, 2017 by RSP Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 system-1m seems p hands on Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pizza's signature Hide all signatures Dr. Oetker (it's pronounced AW-TEK-ER) IDM spokesperson. http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/589f74646d7b2-pizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzza-with-fork.php Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/10/2017 at 10:02 PM, messiaen said: i forgot to mention i need something either small or rack based. i dont have any space for keyboards, its the reason i unfortunately cant just use my prophet 08. i think i might go for the micromonsta, looks like exactly what i was looking for, 8 voices, 100s of presets, small, and 260 quid. It's not a perfect analogy, but you can get in the ballpark of what the p6 (and by extension the Micromonsta) is like if you think "VA Oberheim Matrix 6." That's not how it's presented, that's not exactly how it sounds, and the architecture and feature set aren't exactly he same, but there's a lot of overlap. Similar enough that when I got a Matrix 1000 I almost sold mine, but it's so convenient I've been holding on to it to use live. The wavetables probably make the Micromonsta a lot more flexible. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) A Kurzweil K2500 is probably not as immediate as you're after but it's a lifetime investment. Edited June 11, 2017 by RSP Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2553814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) FM is the way. Get a DX7 or DX21.They are amazing. FM is king of digital forever imo.And you already have a Blofeld for nice clean digital. FM brings something else to the table.Old Hardware especially,they have more balls then lets say FM8 or any software,they have a machine-like sound that is way more dirty and ballsy and when mixed with analogue: Lushness happens believe me. Edited June 13, 2017 by fxbip Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) And they sell for peanuts for what they are worth in musical power. Edited June 13, 2017 by fxbip Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 If you're not reluctent to also use the computer... U-He Bazille. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Nil's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Roland jp8000 rack I'd say. Or just fuck it and buy a novation peak. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Novation Peak looks pretty cool, digital/analog hybrids are pretty great. To this day I regret not being able to afford a Mutable Instruments Ambika kit when they were available. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Didn't OP say the synth needed to be relatively cheap? Peak is over a grand, isn't it? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Your Blofeld feels unadmired? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 no, i just want to be able to jam out melody + chordal accompaniment similtaneously through my processing rack. love the blofeld. im really getting stuck into the modulation matrix now aswell. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 3:04 PM, auxien said: Didn't OP say the synth needed to be relatively cheap? Peak is over a grand, isn't it? Yeah, it's not particularly on topic. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/93389-looking-for-a-digital-polysynth-to-compliment-my-blofeld/#findComment-2554620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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