Burial's Untrue is the most important electronic album of the century

https://pitchfork.com/features/article/why-burials-untrue-is-the-most-important-electronic-album-of-the-century-so-far/

 

 

This article and the people agreeing with it in the comments are so ridiculously stupid it hurts... I mean, Untrue is a great album it is... but... no.

Edited October 27, 2017 by ghOsty

I don't even think it's a great album. It's good, for sure. Honestly I liked Ghost Hardware more.

the last minute of shell of light is the only good thing burial has ever done

yeah, yeah, yeah. this is after already declaring Untrue the best record of the 00s previously. (this was someone else) standard Pitchfork.

 

I still love Untrue, don't get me wrong. but all the latest stuff is just cracklewank.

Edited October 27, 2017 by usagi

Well, I've read it now, and I do feel like I should go back and listen to it. They dropped a lot of names that I've heard of but am not super familiar with, so I'm not confident in my ability to objectively confirm or deny their claims at its influence. I probably haven't even put it on the spindle in 7 years.

The remix of that bloc party tune

 

 

come on then u c..s...lets have YOUR most important electronic albums of the century (despite the lame premise)

  On 10/27/2017 at 5:13 AM, usagi said:

this is after already declaring Untrue the best record of the 00s previously. (this was someone else)

 

this was Fact, lol.

 

(facked)

I didn't like it enough to finish listening to it when it came out.  But I heard it was done entirely in Soundforge, with no grid to line up the beats so it had to be done by eye/ear.  That is neat, if true... but if UNTRUE it's not neat at all.

 

Maybe I'll finish listening to it at some point.  I also still need to watch the second VHS cassette of Titanic.

I imagine the self-titled is probably close to as important, but certainly Burial has been massively influential on the sounds of the past decade.

It's not a terrible article.

fucking lol

 

I don't even

  On 10/27/2017 at 5:41 AM, Zephyr_Nova said:

Maybe I'll finish listening to it at some point.  I also still need to watch the second VHS cassette of Titanic.

 

^^ yep, that's one way to put it haha

 

maybe finish watching your dvds of Friends first?

Burial?

 

more like

 

'dark and moody' music for macho emos over their gybe phase

 

Terriblol

it's a very good album.

  On 10/27/2017 at 5:41 AM, Zephyr_Nova said:

I heard it was done entirely in Soundforge, with no grid to line up the beats so it had to be done by eye/ear. That is neat, if true...

ambermonk used to make beats this way in Cool Edit 1.53. Working with just stereo and Stomper was his only synth. He always kept a calculator in reach. He even figured out how to make crazy ring mod and degradation effects with the flanger effect. It was inspiring.

I like the article but the title strikes me as clickbait. Even if the author honestly does feel it is the best electronic LP of the century (only 17 years into said century) there's no way they've heard everything that's come out within that broad stylistic arc for the past 17 years.

  On 10/27/2017 at 4:52 AM, ghOsty said:

This article and the people agreeing with it in the comments are so ridiculously stupid it hurts... I mean, Untrue is a great album it is... but... no.

 

 

there's a comment section? 

The first album is way better. I can’t ever make through the cheesy pitch warped vocals in the 2nd album.

 

 

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Simon Reynolds is the music journalist equivalent of Adam Curtis.

 

Superficially, his writing comes across as quite smart but any remote scrutiny reveals the fallacies and leaps of logic and plain untruths (lol).

 

The whole passage about new labour, just no.

 

Sad Mark Fisher died, but far too many are aping his style and he’s someone else I feel was guilty of the same problems in what we can call the Wire style of writing.

 

Feels like it’s as much about getting themselves over, reminding how they invented terms or co-opted them into music journalism to enlighten us mere mortals, the hauntology/hypnagogia etc...

 

Probably a good basis for an essay here but this is all over the shop. There’s only so much mileage you can get out of one Burial interview.

Edited October 27, 2017 by Richie Sombrero

  On 10/27/2017 at 8:30 AM, Richie Sombrero said:

Simon Reynolds is the music journalist equivalent of Adam Curtis.

 

Superficially, his writing comes across as quite smart but any remote scrutiny reveals the fallacies and leaps of logic and plain untruths (lol).

 

The whole passage about new labour, just no.

 

Sad Matk Fisher died, but far too many are aping his style too and he’s someone else I feel was guilty of the same problems in what we can call the Wire style of writing.

 

I just finished Fisher's most recent collection of musings and he was obsessed with the word oneiric and with burial

 

he was occasionally a genius, but i often feel like his experience of music seems manic in its euphoric reaction....

 

still...great books

I’d be quite happy never to hear about Derrida or Baudrillard in relation to music again.

  On 10/27/2017 at 8:39 AM, Richie Sombrero said:

I’d be quite happy never to hear about Derrida or Baudrillard in relation to music again.

 

indeed...most of the time it just feels like reaaaaaaaaaaccccccchhhhhhhing 

 

the crackle in burial means nothing...but to Fisher it means everything....the caretaker has some window into the soul of time....or hes just putting old ballroom tracks behind a murk of reverb....

I can't make it far into that extremely annoying wanky article. Untrue is brilliant though.

is p shitty imo

Can't think of many better electronic albums this century tbf.