fxbip Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Simple trick for sad moods. Don't use the 7th note in the minor scale. If in A minor,don't use the G note when writing a melody. A,B,C,D,E,F and no G. Using this 6 note scale Everything is instantly more melancholic. Edited February 4, 2018 by fxbip Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyroscopic Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Allow me to interject, but the perfect insturment to use for sad songs are pianos and strings. Nothing else works as well as piano and string samples. Maybe some woodwind samples if you're feeling a bit frisky. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Gyroscopic's signature Hide all signatures The Pantheon is calling... Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Let's take this thread to the next level and discuss how to voice major structures and how to approach them texturally to make them sad! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Pitch up those vocals and make them stutter for real fake feels, like EDM superstars OPN and Coldplay. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Quote The minor sixth is full of fear http://www.willimekmusic.de/music-and-emotions.pdf Edited February 5, 2018 by iococoi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 this thread needs merging with prodoction tops Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 5:56 PM, BCM said: this thread needs merging with prodoction tops Arrangemant taps? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 3:27 PM, Gocab said: Pitch up those vocals and make them stutter for real fake feels, like EDM superstars OPN and Coldplay. reported for OPN slander. Lopatin will be protected at all costs Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 a good method for writing melancholic melodies is to get a pet raven Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 6:32 PM, span said: On 2/5/2018 at 3:27 PM, Gocab said: Pitch up those vocals and make them stutter for real fake feels, like EDM superstars OPN and Coldplay. reported for OPN slander. Lopatin will be protected at all costs gocab, am wift ya Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just detune the synths? Instantly melancholiaizes/sadifies any melody. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 make all your synths depressed by constantly telling them you hate them Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Get a Variac and run all your gear at about 15v below mains current. It will feel run down and depressed in no time, and that will come through in the music you make with it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 7:58 PM, BCM said: make all your synths depressed by constantly telling them you hate themlol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2606590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldszenen Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Dumbest shit I ever read. But what was I expecting... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2607081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavinsky Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 hey thx for the tip ! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2607082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/7/2018 at 12:39 PM, Kavinsky said: hey thx for the tip ! At least one person really tried it. My pleasure man. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2608109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) On 2/11/2018 at 4:48 AM, fxbip said: On 2/7/2018 at 12:39 PM, Kavinsky said: hey thx for the tip !At least one person really tried it.My pleasure man. Cool theory behind that is the 7th of a minor scale is the dominant (5th) of that scale's relative major (the 3rd), which will briefly tether your ear to a major tonality, essentially tonicizing the 3rd. But without that dominant, the feeling of major tonality has no grounding and can't materialize. So yeah, it's actually true in a theory sense. Edited February 11, 2018 by sheathe Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2608111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 or just write music when your sad i guess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2608121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxbip Posted February 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) On 2/11/2018 at 5:47 AM, sheathe said: On 2/11/2018 at 4:48 AM, fxbip said: On 2/7/2018 at 12:39 PM, Kavinsky said: hey thx for the tip !At least one person really tried it.My pleasure man. Cool theory behind that is the 7th of a minor scale is the dominant (5th) of that scale's relative major (the 3rd), which will briefly tether your ear to a major tonality, essentially tonicizing the 3rd. But without that dominant, the feeling of major tonality has no grounding and can't materialize. So yeah, it's actually true in a theory sense. Exactly! When writing in natural minor if you use the 7th note you add a major feel most of the time to melodies. If you avoid it the minor feel gets more accentuated and also will sound less dark than harmonic minor that has the sharp 7th. Thus making a real melancholic minor scale without as much major feel from the relative major or dark feel from the harmonic minor scales! Edited February 22, 2018 by fxbip Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fxbip's signature Hide all signatures On 5/20/2017 at 8:07 AM, ladalaika said: This entire thread is filthy ape pilates lust. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2610511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
volterock Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Change your environment too. Maybe paint everything black, cut some onions with your dog, and talk / sing / bark like you're dead if you don't already feel that way. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide volterock's signature Hide all signatures http://volterock.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2610578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoix Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 2:05 AM, fxbip said: On 2/11/2018 at 5:47 AM, sheathe said: On 2/11/2018 at 4:48 AM, fxbip said: On 2/7/2018 at 12:39 PM, Kavinsky said: hey thx for the tip !At least one person really tried it.My pleasure man. Cool theory behind that is the 7th of a minor scale is the dominant (5th) of that scale's relative major (the 3rd), which will briefly tether your ear to a major tonality, essentially tonicizing the 3rd. But without that dominant, the feeling of major tonality has no grounding and can't materialize. So yeah, it's actually true in a theory sense. Exactly!When writing in natural minor if you use the 7th note you add a major feel most of the time to melodies. If you avoid it the minor feel gets more accentuated and also will sound less dark than harmonic minor that has the sharp 7th. Thus making a real melancholic minor scale without as much major feel from the relative major or dark feel from the harmonic minor scales! Great tips guys! Skickat från min SM-G930F via Tapatalk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2610843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) *starts song in a minor* *punches own testicles* *finishes song in f# minor* Edited February 24, 2018 by Braintree Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2610920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I painted my dog black and it died. Not sure if in the mood for music. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94656-writing-melancholic-and-sad-melodiesa-trick/#findComment-2610941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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