pcock Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) sort of microhouse/cut style of sample arrangement where you have tonnes of things starting and stopping almost immediately. . whenever i try and do it, the end of the sample always sounds completely out of place, i use fades and play around with fabfilter Pro-G(ate), really tiny precise reverbs, it never really sounds like it belongs in the mix. is there any particular technique you use to handle this? Edited March 11, 2018 by messiaen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Could you give some audio examples of what you are having in mind? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chesney Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Set up some sort of software sampler and set the polyphony to 1. So the previous sound gets cut immediately when a new sound is triggered. I don't use software samplers but pretty sure this will be easy to do. I'd be thinking an MPC style setup thing, is this what you mean? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyloglotte Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 12:54 AM, thawkins said: Could you give some audio examples of what you are having in mind? X2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) On 3/12/2018 at 11:13 AM, Chesney said: Set up some sort of software sampler and set the polyphony to 1. So the previous sound gets cut immediately when a new sound is triggered. I don't use software samplers but pretty sure this will be easy to do. I'd be thinking an MPC style setup thing, is this what you mean? i don't think this is what you meant but anyway... or do you mean those kind of granular sounds? also, after all the fx and reverbs and echoes and whatnot, you can render it and then cut it in your preferred audio editor or daw... Edited March 12, 2018 by THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 You might be [possibly!] looking for a transient shaper. There's a really good free one called Bittersweet, turn it to the 'bitter' side for 'shorter' sounds (increased transients) and towards 'sweet' for longer decayed sounds https://fluxhome.com/project/bittersweet-v3/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 12:15 PM, Xyloglotte said: On 3/12/2018 at 12:54 AM, thawkins said: Could you give some audio examples of what you are having in mind? X2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) On 3/12/2018 at 4:56 PM, auxien said: On 3/12/2018 at 12:15 PM, Xyloglotte said: On 3/12/2018 at 12:54 AM, thawkins said: Could you give some audio examples of what you are having in mind? X2 Edited March 13, 2018 by thawkins Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceiling Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Edited March 13, 2018 by ceiling Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 4:30 PM, mcbpete said: You might be [possibly!] looking for a transient shaper. There's a really good free one called Bittersweet, turn it to the 'bitter' side for 'shorter' sounds (increased transients) and towards 'sweet' for longer decayed sounds https://fluxhome.com/project/bittersweet-v3/ This seems like a cool plugin, thanks! Seems like a next level mixing tool for me, I hardly ever think beyond pan, eq, comp. It got me thinking though - maybe what the OP wants is something like the reverse of a compressor - like a dynamics expander or whatsitscalled? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threads Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Record the sounds to audio and edit them so they are short. No need for fancy plugins. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Threads's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think we got trolled. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 4:38 AM, sweepstakes said: I think we got trolled. In this case, my process for sounds that need to vanish quickly is usually Cmd-Delete. Take that, troll! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 2:50 AM, Threads said: Record the sounds to audio and edit them so they are short. No need for fancy plugins. hey awesome avatar, great movie! (\____/) ( ͡ ͡° ͜ ʖ ͡ ͡°) \╭☞ \╭☞ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) I'm not sure I 100% understand the question but I think you are referring to microsounds? If so, then turning off anything that can possibly dither the short ms lengths is necessary, which include cutting lows as well as EQ boosting to accentuate certain frequencies in the mid-high ranges. Any reverb or anti-aliasing filters may have to be turned off completely. If you arentalking about a layer in the track in general, then its spending time playing around with the timing of the amplitude cut than a particular production technique; nothing really special or complex. Edited March 13, 2018 by Entorwellian Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 i spent a bit of time last night trying to find examples of how i want sharp transients to end but failed. im going to have a play around with that Flux software though, see if it can help me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 If no sound processing can make it all sound as you want, then maybe you’d better fix the source? Otherwise : careful volume automations might be exactly what your tune needs. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Nil's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drukqs Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Ok, are you just referring to sliced samples with abrupt endings i.e., you cut up an amen break but the way you sliced the samples leaves the beginnings and endings sounding harsh? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I suppose it's more about the short bits you'd hear in a Akufen / Soft Pink Truth / Sutekh / Alva Noto track? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Nil's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 The mystery of the vanishing sounds. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94863-how-do-you-guys-process-sounds-that-you-want-to-vanish-quickly/#findComment-2614972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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