Guest Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) All these styles are broadly covered by existing threads, but I wanted to make a thread focused on the more "out there" stuff (pretty much all of which seems to be from the early-mid 80s) because a lot of it's still really mind-blowing, to me at least. I used to assume that Ae's love of early hip hop was mostly nostalgia-driven, but now I think get it. Anyways I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts or recs. My “knowledge” comes solely from youtube vids. A few tracks: But where it gets really interesting is the mixes: (Was ambitiously going to title this thread "was electronic music more adventurous in the 20th century?" but I'm definitely not smart enough to defend such a claim.) Edited October 18, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 more rhythm focused. proto pen expers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdBgf7FPNzM Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whosebrian Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Very forward-thinking plunder-phonics from Double Dee and Steinski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f7glXySqvg both RDJ and Autechre have played this one in DJ sets, technically electro I guess this one still blows my mind Edited October 18, 2018 by joshuatx Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aencre Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Edited October 18, 2018 by aencre dormin 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Proto-Confield from 1980: Edited October 18, 2018 by Freak of the week dormin 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Great, interesting choices so far guys--as expected. On 10/18/2018 at 3:37 PM, joshuatx said: both RDJ and Autechre have played this one in DJ sets, technically electro I guess They both played Set It Off? That's awesome. It's a great track but I wouldn't have necessarily thought it was their kind of thing. One more with a more "direct" connection to autechre. Love how one of the samples sounds like a voice morphing into an electric guitar. Edited October 20, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 this thread is some good shit, thanks Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2672979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 FFFFFFresh thread and contributions so far m88s I'ma drop this right here, whole album is dope actually, perfect alchemy of electro/scratch styles with the early JBs funk loop sampling... and yeah some young upstart MC going by Kool Kieth is on it too Also this was my first ever intro to turntablism, first track on a breakdancing tape I got as a tiny shit in the 80s. The pauses at the start made me think my tape was broken! Pretty amazing that this was a live take recorded from his mixer & 3 turntables, 1982 Lastly, I know Siggy & Rick are big fans of this one, features in most of their megamixes (note to self: go back and listen to their Dekmantel podcast, 4+ hours nonstop oldskool fire) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BobDobalina's signature Hide all signatures CA$HNE$$ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 2:22 AM, tneuvm said: On 10/18/2018 at 3:37 PM, joshuatx said: both RDJ and Autechre have played this one in DJ sets, technically electro I guess They both played Set It Off? That's awesome. It's a great track but I wouldn't have necessarily thought it was their kind of thing. Aphex played it at Coachella and I heard it in a Autechre set online, forget which one though. They both play some pretty diverse sets often, including older obscure stuff though AE in particular play a lot of hip-hop and electro. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 this thread is right in my wheelhouse. Keep ‘em coming! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamovich Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) On 10/19/2018 at 3:30 PM, joshuatx said: On 10/19/2018 at 2:22 AM, tneuvm said: On 10/18/2018 at 3:37 PM, joshuatx said: both RDJ and Autechre have played this one in DJ sets, technically electro I guess They both played Set It Off? That's awesome. It's a great track but I wouldn't have necessarily thought it was their kind of thing. Aphex played it at Coachella and I heard it in a Autechre set online, forget which one though. They both play some pretty diverse sets often, including older obscure stuff though AE in particular play a lot of hip-hop and electro. Rich also dropped this (ATP, UCLA 2002): Also instrumental of this (ATP Minehead 2003 I believe): Edited October 19, 2018 by Adamovich Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adamovich's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 ^ the manipulation of "owner of a lonely heart" vocal from about 0:35 to 0:44 is insane ^ song about 4 min in kind of sucks but the first part at least... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManjuShri Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ManjuShri's signature Hide all signatures འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔ ཨོཾ་ཧ་ནུ་པྷ་ཤ་བྷ་ར་ཧེ་ཡེ་སྭཱ་ཧཱ།། ཨཱོཾ་མ་ཏྲི་མུ་ཡེ་སལེ་འདུ།། Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Edited October 23, 2018 by joshuatx Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide joshuatxuk's signature Hide all signatures Tape Escape! Aural Canyon Wood Between Worlds Tapes [joshuatxuk-is-dead] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olo Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 3:37 PM, joshuatx said: this one still blows my mind Damn right. rocked this ad nauseam back in the day. Fist pumped like a chump when it was used in Shaun of the dead. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide olo's signature Hide all signatures Thanks user487363530. And user4873635301. Now 48736353001. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Edited October 23, 2018 by jaderpansen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18BVGv-Q6U this one REALLY reminds me of gonk steady one, especially around 6 min. i'll shut up about autechre now though... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2673985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Don't know much about old stuff, sorry, but these guys are making really nice electro. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2674028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 1:33 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2674386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Embers Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Autechre started their 2010 webcast with these ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujxrSuMNbI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPkNE1fdlJ8 Edited October 30, 2018 by Embers Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2675094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agent1394 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 bestest thread ever. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95902-experimental-early-hip-hop-electro-turntablism/#findComment-2675099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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