hello spiral Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Premieres this Wednesday on UK TV https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/leaving-neverland-review-michael-jackson-hbo-sundance-1202038317/ NSFW, pretty hair raising detail in this apparently: Reveal hidden contents Quote The same is true of their respective family members, who share a profound guilt for how they enabled this abuse, and a bone-deep rage at the man who perpetrated it. A man who some of them once loved — a man who some of them still do. Steel yourself for specifics, as dancing around them would defeat the purpose of this documentary: Jackson was a man who convinced their most innocent relatives to bend over and spread their butt cheeks while he masturbated to the sight; who forced them to suck on his nipples while he serviced himself; who installed an elaborate system of alarm bells at the Neverland Ranch so that he would hear if anyone was going to walk in on an eight-year-old boy with the pop star’s penis inside his mouth. Penetration was a more complicated process, but one that got increasingly possible as the boys grew older. There was even a mock wedding ceremony at one point; the kid involved still can’t bear to look at the ring. The mothers chaperoned many of these vile trysts, oblivious to (or in denial about) what Jackson was doing to their sons behind closed doors. A teenage sibling even defended the pop star in court. She didn’t know any better, but will still regret that decision until the day she dies. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hello spiral's signature Hide all signatures https://salaamhelicoid.bandcamp.com/ Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 big if true Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I read a bunch of things about mr. heehee, I always hoped he was just a strange guy who liked creating a place for kids to play in a dreamy fashion, not all this vile shit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chronical's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricone RC Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Hot Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Not sure how so many people still defend him and play his music after all this time and evidence, whilst quickly run to boycott any other celebrity when one person alleges something. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Well I think there were rumors floating around as far back as 2002 that he was a pedo, around the same time he held his infant daughter out the window. This just confirms that.And I think that old Moonwalker game on arcade/Sega Genesis/whatever required you to rescue children from the bad guys. lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 You know, even if a lot of it is true, stuff like this: "who installed an elaborate system of alarm bells at the Neverland Ranch so that he would hear if anyone was going to walk in on an eight-year-old boy with the pop star’s penis inside his mouth" pulls me into the direction of bullshit. Given that we now know he was wearing wigs since that Pepsi commercial incident in the early 80s and was suffering lupus and vitiligo he could have very well been very cautious to show himself in public, or even in private (when was he even actually private?). And I'm guessing these alarm bells at least functioned as a safety against people seeing his real presence. And apparently it worked wonders because we haven't seen many pictures of a bald MJ, did we? That people now just assume it's to hide his sexual activities with children, well.. tbh, I don't know what he did in his free time. But those alarm bells could have been there for various reasons is all I'm saying. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 The fact they say Michael refused to wear condoms with little boys made me ill. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Haven't watched the documentary, so I can't comment on any of it. Nor is my job to do so. But he was without a doubt a "weird" man who had a fucked up childhood - or a lack thereof. Everything about this grown man was weird so he was the easiest target ever. But who fucking knows... I remember seeing a leaked home video or something of him and his youngest child, I think it was, where he speaks to her in a completely different tone than what we were used to hear. I don't know, there was just something very normal about it which was kinda reassuring... but again, I don't fucking know. But he made some fucking amazing tunes. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Remember all of the fucked up evidence the Sherriff's Dept. found in Neverland, but was ruled inadmissible? https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection/amp Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 5:08 PM, Rubin Farr said: Remember all of the fucked up evidence the Sherriff's Dept. found in Neverland, but was ruled inadmissible? https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection/amp Quote There were images depicting children’s faces on adult bodies. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 5:08 PM, Rubin Farr said: Remember all of the fucked up evidence the Sherriff's Dept. found in Neverland, but was ruled inadmissible? https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection/amp Oh. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 It's airing in one go on public tv here next Friday, this must be some important shit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Wacko Jacko Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 i read some of this stuff and it got stuck in my head and honestly fucked my shit up for a day or two. i really really really do not want to know about all the details. it's cancer for my thoughts to think about what described. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2700999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 "Your butt is mine" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) i have no relevant segue to this but i feel compelled to post it Edited March 2, 2019 by triachus Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 7:06 PM, triachus said: i have no relevant segue to this but i feel compelled to post ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLvDnRU_ajk quite good Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Human Bean Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 7:02 PM, manmower said: "Your butt is mine" https://youtu.be/14n53cmKYJM?t=30 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisforawesome Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 7:06 PM, triachus said: i have no relevant segue to this but i feel compelled to post it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sisforawesome's signature Hide all signatures Δ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 2:33 PM, hello spiral said: Premieres this Wednesday on UK TV https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/leaving-neverland-review-michael-jackson-hbo-sundance-1202038317/ NSFW, pretty hair raising detail in this apparently: Reveal hidden contents Quote The same is true of their respective family members, who share a profound guilt for how they enabled this abuse, and a bone-deep rage at the man who perpetrated it. A man who some of them once loved — a man who some of them still do. Steel yourself for specifics, as dancing around them would defeat the purpose of this documentary: Jackson was a man who convinced their most innocent relatives to bend over and spread their butt cheeks while he masturbated to the sight; who forced them to suck on his nipples while he serviced himself; who installed an elaborate system of alarm bells at the Neverland Ranch so that he would hear if anyone was going to walk in on an eight-year-old boy with the pop star’s penis inside his mouth. Penetration was a more complicated process, but one that got increasingly possible as the boys grew older. There was even a mock wedding ceremony at one point; the kid involved still can’t bear to look at the ring. The mothers chaperoned many of these vile trysts, oblivious to (or in denial about) what Jackson was doing to their sons behind closed doors. A teenage sibling even defended the pop star in court. She didn’t know any better, but will still regret that decision until the day she dies. not my proudest wank Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drome Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 4:30 PM, ambermonk said: Well I think there were rumors floating around as far back as 2002 that he was a pedo, around the same time he held his infant daughter out the windowWasn’t there a big court case in the 90s? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drome Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 He was a paedo. End of. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitchroast Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 i wish it wasn't true, but that's purely self interest reasons and because i still think the production on Thriller is amazing and would prefer it if i was able to listen to it occasionally. ... the comments in that indiewire article in OP are a bit of a bummer. " There is plenty of proof that Michael did not do what he was accused of,the Satan-like men are just coming after Michael’s money. As a moonwalker, I am devastated to hear what they are doing to him after his passing of almost 10 years ago. Myself and other moonwalkers contacted HBO and they are still showcasing it. I hope those spoiled pieces of trash get what they deserve. As God as my witness, I know in my heart and mind that Michael Jackson, the King of Pop,Rock,& Soul is not guilty. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96623-leaving-neverland-a-thread-to-discuss-it/#findComment-2701107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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