Leaving Neverland: a thread to discuss it

Premieres this Wednesday on UK TV

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/leaving-neverland-review-michael-jackson-hbo-sundance-1202038317/

NSFW, pretty hair raising detail in this apparently:

big if true

I read a bunch of things about mr. heehee, I always hoped he was just a strange guy who liked creating a place for kids to play in a dreamy fashion, not all this vile shit. 

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Not sure how so many people still defend him and play his music after all this time and evidence, whilst quickly run to boycott any other celebrity when one person alleges something.

Well I think there were rumors floating around as far back as 2002 that he was a pedo, around the same time he held his infant daughter out the window. This just confirms that.

And I think that old Moonwalker game on arcade/Sega Genesis/whatever required you to rescue children from the bad guys. lol

You know, even if a lot of it is true, stuff like this: "who installed an elaborate system of alarm bells at the Neverland Ranch so that he would hear if anyone was going to walk in on an eight-year-old boy with the pop star’s penis inside his mouth" pulls me into the direction of bullshit.

Given that we now know he was wearing wigs since that Pepsi commercial incident in the early 80s and was suffering lupus and vitiligo he could have very well been very cautious to show himself in public, or even in private (when was he even actually private?). And I'm guessing these alarm bells at least functioned as a safety against people seeing his real presence.

And apparently it worked wonders because we haven't seen many pictures of a bald MJ, did we? That people now just assume it's to hide his sexual activities with children, well.. tbh, I don't know what he did in his free time. But those alarm bells could have been there for various reasons is all I'm saying.

The fact they say Michael refused to wear condoms with little boys made me ill.

Haven't watched the documentary, so I can't comment on any of it. Nor is my job to do so. But he was without a doubt a "weird" man who had a fucked up childhood - or a lack thereof. Everything about this grown man was weird so he was the easiest target ever. But who fucking knows...

I remember seeing a leaked home video or something of him and his youngest child, I think it was, where he speaks to her in a completely different tone than what we were used to hear. I don't know, there was just something very normal about it which was kinda reassuring... but again, I don't fucking know. But he made some fucking amazing tunes.

Remember all of the fucked up evidence the Sherriff's Dept. found in Neverland, but was ruled inadmissible?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection/amp

  On 3/2/2019 at 5:08 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Remember all of the fucked up evidence the Sherriff's Dept. found in Neverland, but was ruled inadmissible?

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection/amp

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There were images depicting children’s faces on adult bodies.

  On 3/2/2019 at 5:08 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Remember all of the fucked up evidence the Sherriff's Dept. found in Neverland, but was ruled inadmissible?

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection/amp

Oh.

It's airing in one go on public tv here next Friday, this must be some important shit.

Wacko Jacko

i read some of this stuff and it got stuck in my head and honestly fucked my shit up for a day or two. i really really really do not want to know about all the details. it's cancer for my thoughts to think about what described.

"Your butt is mine"

i have no relevant segue to this but i feel compelled to post it

  On 3/2/2019 at 7:06 PM, triachus said:

i have no relevant segue to this but i feel compelled to post ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLvDnRU_ajk

quite good

  On 3/2/2019 at 7:02 PM, manmower said:

"Your butt is mine"

https://youtu.be/14n53cmKYJM?t=30

  On 3/2/2019 at 7:06 PM, triachus said:

i have no relevant segue to this but i feel compelled to post it

 

  On 3/2/2019 at 2:33 PM, hello spiral said:

Premieres this Wednesday on UK TV

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/leaving-neverland-review-michael-jackson-hbo-sundance-1202038317/

 

NSFW, pretty hair raising detail in this apparently:

 

 

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The same is true of their respective family members, who share a profound guilt for how they enabled this abuse, and a bone-deep rage at the man who perpetrated it. A man who some of them once loved — a man who some of them still do. Steel yourself for specifics, as dancing around them would defeat the purpose of this documentary: Jackson was a man who convinced their most innocent relatives to bend over and spread their butt cheeks while he masturbated to the sight; who forced them to suck on his nipples while he serviced himself; who installed an elaborate system of alarm bells at the Neverland Ranch so that he would hear if anyone was going to walk in on an eight-year-old boy with the pop star’s penis inside his mouth. Penetration was a more complicated process, but one that got increasingly possible as the boys grew older. There was even a mock wedding ceremony at one point; the kid involved still can’t bear to look at the ring. The mothers chaperoned many of these vile trysts, oblivious to (or in denial about) what Jackson was doing to their sons behind closed doors. A teenage sibling even defended the pop star in court. She didn’t know any better, but will still regret that decision until the day she dies.

 

 

not my proudest wank

  On 3/2/2019 at 4:30 PM, ambermonk said:

Well I think there were rumors floating around as far back as 2002 that he was a pedo, around the same time he held his infant daughter out the window

He was a paedo. End of.

i wish it wasn't true, but that's purely self interest reasons and because i still think the production on Thriller is amazing and would prefer it if i was able to listen to it occasionally.

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the comments in that indiewire article in OP are a bit of a bummer.  

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