Polytrix Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 I don't have the money to afford this beast of a thing but it looks EXACTLY up my street. Anyone know of a similar digital like thing..basic functions but full of potential? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadellisTheSixth Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 god.. that's another v pretty machine I want. FM8 is the nearest* comparable vst I can think of. probably some Reaktor modules that come closer tho. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Yeah it looks and sounds amazing to me. I'd buy a vst version in an instant. If it had built in rever it would be perfect in my book. I think it's only mono output though right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Bazille then, rather than FM8. A marvelous beast of a synth. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Nil's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Cheers guys. Just looked at both of those ideas and they both sound amazing but look a bit too complex for me. I really like the idea of keeping stuff minimal. Perhaps I'm just a bit wimpy though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Perhaps I'm someone that like stuff pre-routed for me? Less clicky click thinky thinky Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
estragon Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 You'll have some trouble finding a pre-built alternative, especially since the Lyra-8 is so specific in its interface and method of interaction. My advice would be to study the manual and try and replicate the functions in VCV Rack – you could even fake some of the touch elements using the built-in gamepad interface in VCV. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Thanks! Yeah that would work I'd say Far too complex for me sadly, id never pull it off. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Perhaps some fun can be had with the swarm? https://www.refusesoftware.com/swarm Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2719988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 That looks pretty perfect for what I'm after. Thank you!! user 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 On 5/26/2019 at 1:43 PM, user said: Perhaps some fun can be had with the swarm? https://www.refusesoftware.com/swarm Sweet. Trying this out. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Entorwellian's signature Hide all signatures When A Heron Turns BlackNorthern Flicker Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 On 5/26/2019 at 10:24 AM, Polytrix said: Far too complex for me sadly, id never pull it off. You're disadvantaging yourself with this mindset! Sure, it may take a little while to get used to how things interact etc, but you should definitely give it a try. I'm going by memory here, but here's what I think it should be like: Start with a single voice (looks like it's pretty much just a simple oscillator and a VCA with an ASR envelope), then turn that into a pair that can modulate each other, mixed into a basic filter ("sharp"). That pair then can turn into another pair, perhaps with a bit more cross modulation to make things a bit unpredictable, and then a control for the release of all four voices (I think that's the "hold" control?); you can add a switch for each pair to multiply/divide the signal going into the release to simulate the "fast" switch (again, I've only barely played one so this is going from vague memory). If you then duplicate this group of 4, adding some more cross modulation (all of this modulation should be switchable) you're nearly there.. after that it's just a matter of adding a couple of delays, a distortion, and an LFO routable to delay time/oscillator pitch. It likely won't be an exact copy, but you could probably get something with a similar feel. I'm actually tempted to try replicating it myself, perhaps on my Nord modular.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
estragon Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 1:43 AM, modey said: You're disadvantaging yourself with this mindset! Sure, it may take a little while to get used to how things interact etc, but you should definitely give it a try. I'm going by memory here, but here's what I think it should be like: Start with a single voice (looks like it's pretty much just a simple oscillator and a VCA with an ASR envelope), then turn that into a pair that can modulate each other, mixed into a basic filter ("sharp"). That pair then can turn into another pair, perhaps with a bit more cross modulation to make things a bit unpredictable, and then a control for the release of all four voices (I think that's the "hold" control?); you can add a switch for each pair to multiply/divide the signal going into the release to simulate the "fast" switch (again, I've only barely played one so this is going from vague memory). If you then duplicate this group of 4, adding some more cross modulation (all of this modulation should be switchable) you're nearly there.. after that it's just a matter of adding a couple of delays, a distortion, and an LFO routable to delay time/oscillator pitch. It likely won't be an exact copy, but you could probably get something with a similar feel. I'm actually tempted to try replicating it myself, perhaps on my Nord modular.. Expand Absolutely. It seems daunting, but synth designers are usually pretty generous in providing flow diagrams that show how the basic components (VCO, VCF, LFO, etc) of their designs interact with each other. If you're using something like VCV (which is completely free btw!) or the Nord it then just becomes a matter of replicating that flow of components. Even if you don't come close to an exact emulation, you'll usually hit on something interesting and will have learned a lot in the process. The Nord in particular is great for this kind of thing because the interface is dead simple, there are thousands of patches online that you can reverse engineer, and the actual machine won't crash if you hook something up the wrong way. I even made a passable emulation of my Minibrute on it because I got sick of having to clear space on my desk to set it up. modey 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 I'll have a bash thanks for encouragement Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 The trickiest part to pull off here seems to be the actual touchy bits on the synth. It's something like a capacitative touch thing it seems, maybe you could emulate it with a touchpad on a laptop somehow or hook up an ipad. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thawkins's signature Hide all signatures We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various TELECHARGER: audiovisual experimental space rock livestreams with Tubular Corporation most Tuesdays 8.30PM CET Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Roli lightpad block might work nicely for that, not quite the same feel, but would be nice to set up with say, a Max patch.. hmmm Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polytrix Posted May 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 Well if I get round to this I may shout back in this thread. Gonna be honest though. Highly unlikely. Would be ace though to have this self-made instrument Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97049-digital-vst-versionalterantive-to-the-lyra8/#findComment-2720173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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