ProTracker bizniss

Yo yo yo! Sup sup!

I’ve been really digging this new wave of amiga-based tracker producers that are creating old school jungle in the ways of the mid-90s masters. 

I’m inspired to get into it myself but I’m not super excited about having to hunt down, buy and plug in a ton of vintage amiga gear. 

I recently downloaded the v2.3d app with the hopes that it would be easy to learn. I’m understanding the concepts but having some difficulties. Any of y’all down with this in a way that you might be able to shed light on some ins and outs?

Primarily, I’m curious if someone can point me to a resource or community where they discuss these things. Also, I’m curious about using and finding .lha sound files. 

Most importantly, I’m also just trying to find out how to save a tracker project in the app. 

Any advice would be amazing!!

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Btw, if you have no idea what this is all about, here’s a couple links to peep...

When you say you've downloaded the 2.3d app as in you've downloaded the original Amiga executable for use on an Amiga, or is this an app for a modern OS that's a clone of the original Amiga program ? If it's the former, is there a reason you're sticking to the original hardware & software rather than using a compatible Windows or Mac tracker (eg something like https://openmpt.org/ or https://milkytracker.titandemo.org/ )

.lha is a compressed format (it's like the .zip of the Amiga world) - More likely you'll be wanting .iff files. There's a huge download pack on archive.org of the entire classic ST-xx collection: https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX

IIRC all file stuff (saving/loading) is done via the 'Disk Op.' (disk operations) button which'll then bring up another menu for loading and saving samples and your modules (songs)

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:17 PM, mcbpete said:

When you say you've downloaded the 2.3d app as in you've downloaded the original Amiga executable for use on an Amiga, or is this an app for a modern OS that's a clone of the original Amiga program ? If it's the former, is there a reason you're sticking to the original hardware & software rather than using a compatible Windows or Mac tracker (eg something like https://openmpt.org/ or https://milkytracker.titandemo.org/ )

.lha is a compressed format (it's like the .zip of the Amiga world) - More likely you'll be wanting .iff files. There's a huge download pack on archive.org of the entire classic ST-xx collection: https://archive.org/details/AmigaSTXX

IIRC all file stuff (saving/loading) is done via the 'Disk Op.' (disk operations) button which'll then bring up another menu for loading and saving samples and your modules (songs)

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Sorry. I downloaded the clone app... 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/protracker/

should I be using .iff files instead of .lha?

I’ve tried using a couple .lha files and they play back as white noise.

Is there a way to create my own .iff files from my own aiffs/etc?

Thanks!

If you can get hold of some sort of file converter (aiff or wav to iff) then yeah, although I'm not sure of what applications nowadays still support iff. I've got the super old skool Adobe Audition 1.5 (a.k.a the final version of Cool Edit just before it got totally rebuilt) which supports iff import/export.

But yes you want to be using iff files in that clone - It's trying to use the compressed lha file as raw data hence all that noise

Perhaps you could use the FastTracker clone by the same guy ( https://16-bits.org/ft2.php ). That was the tracker that really got me into tracking back in the day and is very similar in workflow to ProTracker and also supports .wav files for your samples as well as .iff. You can load and save to the 4 channel .mod format but also has the benefit of up to 32 channels for its .xm format

Second hand amiga's are affordable here, if you stick to the 4 channels you don't need any hardware gear to get started, learn the basics first. Later on you can upgrade the production side with akai samplers and what not. 

This guys a don!!!

3 dons -

This was the first time I'd ever seen a tracker (this was the built in demo track) it blew my 10 year old brain

Anyone use Open MPT over Renoise?

I don't really see why one would

I do - But just cos it's free and use it as a mod/xm/it player...

OpenMPT is more true to the classic style of tracker music, which is great if you're composing mod/xm/etc stuff. Renoise is definitely more suited to more modern production, but when I want more accurate emulation of older trackers I'll use MPT. I usually stick with Renoise though.

I got a little more respect for Aphrodite now knowing he used to make all that terrible jump up on a tracker.

I'm so glad those videos are being shared like crazy. cTrix is really good at this stuff. 

Plus, my hands are in the first video

Oh damn, those videos really make me miss doing tracks on my trusty old Amiga.

I want to get an Amiga now just to make jungle rave tunes ha ha. Been looking into but I don't have the space yet alas.

Just grab renoise and go wild

  On 2/9/2020 at 10:22 AM, plugexpert said:

 

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loving these

  On 9/7/2019 at 9:56 PM, plugexpert said:

Second hand amiga's are affordable here, if you stick to the 4 channels you don't need any hardware gear to get started, learn the basics first. Later on you can upgrade the production side with akai samplers and what not. 

You're lucky, I was pricing second hand Amigas here in the USA last fall and getting a solid setup was looking like $1000-$1500

I used to use Impulse Tracker in DOS, and that's a lot more reasonable to get working on a modern computer.

  On 2/15/2020 at 9:49 PM, TubularCorporation said:

I used to use Impulse Tracker in DOS, and that's a lot more reasonable to get working on a modern computer.

Any specific reason why one wouldn’t just use Renoise?

(genuinely curious)

  On 2/15/2020 at 9:49 PM, TubularCorporation said:

I used to use Impulse Tracker in DOS, and that's a lot more reasonable to get working on a modern computer.

If you want IT working natively on new systems (including Mac and Linux) then Schism Tracker has you covered - http://schismtracker.org/

If you're more of a FastTracker bod then this will sort you out (again also Mac & Linux compatible) - https://16-bits.org/ft2.php 

Btw Esa Ruoho aka Lackluster made some renoise tools pack called paketti that mimic some of IT workflow functionalities