chenGOD Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-politics-navalny-kremlin-idUSKBN29R10S Russians in Moscow protesting against Putin's corruption. Surprise response from Russian authorities - they are arresting the hell out of protestors and actually suppressing their speech. Who could have seen that coming... Here's the documentary that Navalny produced on Putin and corruption, I haven't watched it all yet, but it looks like a blinder. Watch it with the CC (unless you speak Russian - there must be some Russian speakers on here?). Braintree, ARPA, YangYing and 2 others 5 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 I think @ambermonke knows a little Russian Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Russia becoming more and more authoritarian (not that it wasn't that before) is partly to blame on Merkel. Schröder did a more diplomatic Russia politic which for a short time led Russia to open up and orient towards the West, Merkel spoilt that. Schröder is now working in the Russian oil industry, so there is that weird after taste. But had Merkel chosen a more diplomatic approach, maybe Russia would have continued that course of slowly becoming more liberal. @dcom speaks Russian. Edited January 23, 2021 by dingformung YangYing, ambermonk and cruising for burgers 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 The world for sure is changing. I think im going to end o moving to Island eventually, seems like a chill place. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 i used to know a moderator like that Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dragon's signature Hide all signatures faith <3 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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auxien Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Putin checking in on his supply of polonium Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:24 PM, dingformung said: Russia becoming more and more authoritarian (not that it wasn't that before) is partly to blame on Merkel. Schröder did a more diplomatic Russia politic which for a short time led Russia to open up and orient towards the West, Merkel spoilt that. Schröder is now working in the Russian oil industry, so there is that weird after taste. But had Merkel chosen a more diplomatic approach, maybe Russia would have continued that course of slowly becoming more liberal. @dcom speaks Russian. Expand What parts of Merkels’ policy do you think contributed to Putin becoming more authoritarian? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) I did a few spot-checks on the video's subs and they're passable, they're not that nuanced so most probably a first pass was done with a machine translator, then someone checked everything and made it flow better. Although I studied it for 7-8 years I haven't used Russian that much so I'm a bit rusty, but I can still understand enough to say that the translation is good enough. Edited January 23, 2021 by dcom dingformung 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dcom's signature Hide all signatures It Doesn't Matter™ You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. dcomμnications (WATMM blog, mostly about non-IDM releases, maybe something else, too.) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:45 PM, dcom said: I'm a bit rusky reported chenGOD 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:59 PM, Alcofribas said: reported That wasn't overt enough for you? chenGOD, Alcofribas and Hugh Mughnus 1 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dcom's signature Hide all signatures It Doesn't Matter™ You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. dcomμnications (WATMM blog, mostly about non-IDM releases, maybe something else, too.) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:20 PM, sweepstakes said: I think @ambermonke knows a little Russian Only enough to recognize cyrillics and a few basic greetings and swear words. Trying to learn more on Duolingo lately (along with Indonesian). I still have no love for despots though, Putin included. Main reason I got interested was when I got into the Ukrainian game series S.T.A.L.K.E.R. over a decade ago. That and I get the impression that Russian gamers are master shitposters. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 7:03 PM, dcom said: That wasn't overt enough for you? Expand Exactly what someone engaged in Russian psyops would say. Alcofribas 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 7:07 PM, chenGOD said: Exactly what someone engaged in Russian psyops would say. Смерть шпионам. chenGOD and Alcofribas 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dcom's signature Hide all signatures It Doesn't Matter™ You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. dcomμnications (WATMM blog, mostly about non-IDM releases, maybe something else, too.) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 zeff speaks russian too. he's basically joseph stalin's son Hugh Mughnus 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARPA Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 sweepstakes, ambermonk and toaoaoad 1 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ARPA's signature Hide all signatures no-digital release is a fuggin' sh*t idea Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 7:48 PM, ARPA said: Expand i bet palestinians would give their arms and legs for some of that snow Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 so it's the russians protesting in moscow? not the french or spanish? thanks for the doc link. i got a little obsessed with putin a few years ago after the "putin's way" doc/frontline episode came out over here. worth looking up. tells his tory from soviet era childhood and rise to power etc. pretty amazing shit. there's a book called "The main without a face: rise of putin" something something.. i haven't read it but it's on the list. there was a russian guy who worked in the building several years ago where the synth shop i worked at was.. he was recent immigrant and would talk about russia sometimes. he said basically tha trussians were willing to live with a certain amount of corruption from their leaders if things are going well in the country.. but if things aren't going well they start to pay attention and get more active in politics etc. which seems typical of a lot of places but he made it sounds different there. On 1/23/2021 at 8:11 PM, xox said: i bet palestinians would give their arms and legs for some of that snow they kind of trade their arms and legs regardless of having/not having snow. the israeli snipers targeting legs, particularly lower leg bones, with high caliber rifles is pretty fucked up. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 8:21 PM, ignatius said: they kind of trade their arms and legs regardless of having/not having snow. the israeli snipers targeting legs, particularly lower leg bones, with high caliber rifles is pretty fucked up. beautiful! fakn world! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 ambermonk, MaartenVC and m0rb1d 1 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:44 PM, chenGOD said: What parts of Merkels’ policy do you think contributed to Putin becoming more authoritarian? Maybe I should have rephrased. She didn't directly make him more authoritarian but she couldn't make him more liberal either, as Schröder apparently could. Maybe Putin was just playing a smart game but during the Schröder era Putin was way more interested in doing compromises. Maybe the annexation of Crimea could have been prevented (speculative but possible). Part of why Putin and Merkel don't like each other is maybe that they are two completely different types of politicians. Merkel isn't that vain/narcissistic type and also a woman and a hardcore transatlanticist (she loves that the US sanctions Germany for trading with Russia). Schröder and Putin were friends and licked each others ass - which is gross but had the side effect that Russia was more peaceful and less repressive during that time and that the influence of the West on Russia kept increasing. Now Russia is seen as the enemy and as a result acts like it. But I'm mostly just speculating. I read an interesting article about that but can't find it right now. If I do, I will link it here. Obligatory Putin on horse picture: YangYing and cruising for burgers 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupe Beats Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 8:54 PM, dingformung said: Maybe I should have rephrased. She didn't directly make him more authoritarian but she couldn't make him more liberal either, as Schröder apparently could. Maybe Putin was just playing a smart game but during the Schröder era Putin was way more interested in doing compromises. Maybe the annexation of Crimea could have been prevented (speculative but possible). Part of why Putin and Merkel don't like each other is maybe that they are two completely different types of politicians. Merkel isn't that vain/narcissistic type and also a woman and a hardcore transatlanticist (she loves that the US sanctions Germany for trading with Russia). Schröder and Putin were friends and licked each others ass - which is gross but had the side effect that Russia was more peaceful and less repressive during that time and that the influence of the West on Russia kept increasing. Now Russia is seen as the enemy and as a result acts like it. But I'm mostly just speculating. I read an interesting article about that but can't find it right now. If I do, I will link it here. Expand My own speculations: Putin would have become more authoritarian with time no matter who was in charge in Germany. Between the rise of the Chinese economic influence on a world stage and the constant yo-yo of power styles in the United States, those alone parallel with the trajectory of Putin's despotic leanings. I'm also convinced that Putin had a hand in the apartment bombings of 1999 when he was still PM and look at that as a sign of his reflexive authoritarianism. His meddling in Ukrainian elections is another. I agree that Merkel probably has had an influence on the trajectory, I would disagree on its severity. The cynical side of me thinks that he's going to automatically keep opinions he had on German leaders from his days in the Stasi. ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Taupe Beats's signature Hide all signatures Mix thread (go here, listen, enjoy): https://forum.watmm.com/topic/95058-very-old-member-idi-amin-new-mixes/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) On 1/23/2021 at 9:26 PM, Taupe Beats said: My own speculations: Putin would have become more authoritarian with time no matter who was in charge in Germany. Between the rise of the Chinese economic influence on a world stage and the constant yo-yo of power styles in the United States, those alone parallel with the trajectory of Putin's despotic leanings. I'm also convinced that Putin had a hand in the apartment bombings of 1999 when he was still PM and look at that as a sign of his reflexive authoritarianism. His meddling in Ukrainian elections is another. I agree that Merkel probably has had an influence on the trajectory, I would disagree on its severity. The cynical side of me thinks that he's going to automatically keep opinions he had on German leaders from his days in the Stasi. Expand 100% think the apartment bombings was a false flag by putin. the fact that they uncovered undetonated ordinance that is the exact type and method used by security services (kgb/FSB) is some good evidence. was done to so they could blame chechnya and invade making everyone forget about what was going on politically. is discussed here.. as well as putin's actions prior on his rise to power. - this is episode 1 https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-way/ episode 2.. https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-putins-way/ Edited January 23, 2021 by ignatius may be rude, dingformung and joshuatxuk 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 hey i don't speak russian... dingformung 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 9:35 PM, ignatius said: is discussed here.. as well as putin's actions prior on his rise to power. - this is episode 2.. episode 1 is there somewhere too. https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-putins-way/ Thanks, I'm going to watch this cruising for burgers 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100590-russian-protests-in-moscow/#findComment-2849478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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