Marxist thought

This thread is like watching a group of men wrestling naked, while desperately trying to bukkake one another.  Nowhere near as entertaining, but at least I don't have to pay for my soft furnishings to be professionally cleaned like usual.   

  On 5/11/2021 at 6:23 PM, kakapo said:

This thread is like watching a group of men wrestling naked, while desperately trying to bukkake one another.  Nowhere near as entertaining, but at least I don't have to pay for my soft furnishings to be professionally cleaned like usual.   

On acid

  On 5/11/2021 at 6:23 PM, kakapo said:

This thread is like watching a group of men wrestling naked, while desperately trying to bukkake one another.

*Karl Marx whipping the meathammer of the prorletariat out of his trousers voice* "well son, ya ready to sieze the means of production?"

  On 5/11/2021 at 11:04 AM, chenGOD said:

One last thing @cyanobacteria

You asked earlier why I referenced central planning, because of course you have said numerous times in this thread and elsewhere that central planning can work. It can, but it is less efficient than a well-regulated market, and the links I posted that came from a Soviet educated economist which show that central planning doesn't work you conveniently ignored.

i wonder how efficient big macs are. i wonder how efficient a complete and utter lack of public transport are.  or how efficient it is to force workers to work on maximizing profit instead of maximizing public good.  im sure you think thats the same thing, somehow, because of your religion of capitalism

you bourgeois propagandists are just trying to uphold the status quo of third world exploitation.  it's literally sickening how little you care about masses of wage slaves being forced to work in a way suboptimal for meeting the needs of everyone on earth to increase profit margins for the owning class.  i bet when you see a cop arresting a homeless person for shoplifting food you get excited, happy that private property rights are being enforced.  absolutely beyond pathetic

liberals are fascists

how efficient is it to have multiple car companies doing the same thing in a variety of different ways rather than sharing technology? how efficient is it to have a variety of technology companies implementing the same thing about 50 different mutually incompatible ways? how efficient is it for them to all try to interfere with one another once they get something approaching a monopoly in their sector? how efficient is it to intentionally keep a pool of unemployed people as reserve labor to keep down labor prices? how efficient is it to keep millions of black people in jail? 

give me a break with your "capitalist is efficient" bullshit.  capitalism is destroying the planet and murdering millions of people. 

the rate this thread produces strawmen, you would think we were in a worker-owned scarecrow production plant

i wonder how efficient it is to allow John Deere to implement tractor technologies which are intentionally non-reparable by the end-user, requiring them to take the tractor in to a repair facility or have a certified tractor repair technician perform basic maintenance, rather than having the technology free and open source so they can be repaired in the field immediately?

i wonder how efficient it is to have 10x more empty homes waiting for renters than the number of homeless people in a capitalist country.  is that an efficient allocation of resources?

apparently leaving leaving just about every aspect of life up to irrational and uncoordinated market forces is somehow efficient even though everything about it is inefficient if you inspect it for even 10 minutes

also i wonder how efficient texas's privately owned and entirely market managed energy grid is when people freeze to death in their homes.  very efficient, it leaves everything up to supply and demand, if you can't afford power during demand spikes coinciding with a lack of supply due to improper planning apparently you just deserve to die of hypothermia while your governor travels to cancun

pathetic liberals who live in social democratic welfare states spouting off about capitalism as if they know shit about it.  they read smith and modern capitalist theorists and they determined that it's very efficient to limit "democracy" to 1 day per 4 years and to limit "democratic" representation to only capitalists and every couple decades maybe a social democrat who loses due to unilateral media slandering not even paid for by the other candidates.  i wonder why.  oh yeah, class interests

what anyone in this thread thinks is irrelevant, the third world proletariat will at some point achieve revolution through whatever means they deem necessary, and if first world countries have not achieved socialism by then they will suffer, since capitalism is implemented through exploitation of the third world, and only through global socialism can these systems of inter-continental exploitation be destroyed

John Deere operates to profit from shit caps, not  

  On 5/11/2021 at 7:46 PM, cyanobacteria said:

absolutely beyond pathetic

I don't think your method of insulting everyone repeatedly until they confirm your illusory superiority is working. Paraphrasing that one politically opinionated bearded hipster guy, you are repeating yourself, first as tragedy, then as farce.

  On 5/11/2021 at 8:08 PM, dcom said:

first as tragedy, then as farts

  On 5/11/2021 at 8:08 PM, dcom said:

I don't think your method of insulting everyone repeatedly until they confirm your illusory superiority is working. Paraphrasing that one politically opinionated bearded hipster guy, you are repeating yourself, first as tragedy, then as farce.

all of my posts are relevant to the topic at hand.  your posts are somehow about me.  i know im very interesting to you for some reason but keep your thoughts to yourself

it's very efficient to have adversarial trading algorithms buying and selling stocks at high frequency in a way entirely meant to increase their profit rather than in any way meant to meet the needs of the people.  it's so efficient to sell agricultural stocks and buy facebook because the algorithm told them to, then 0.00132 seconds later reverse the process, then do it again 0.000324 seconds later, then repeat this process ad infinitum in various ways

it's almost like you guys have no comprehension of how capitalism even works and are spouting out the standard idealist propaganda

  On 5/11/2021 at 8:11 PM, cyanobacteria said:

all of my posts are relevant to the topic at hand.  your posts are somehow about me.  i know im very interesting to you for some reason but keep your thoughts to yourself

Do you have skin in the game? What are you doing in the real, physical world to advance your ideology? Are you organizing rallies? Are you publishing samizdat? Are you seizing the means of production? What are you really doing to right the wrongs, upsetting the balance of power, toppling the capitalists, bayoneting the bourgeoisie, redistributing the wealth, sabotaging the government violence monopoly? What are you doing besides being insulting towards people you don't know on an electronic music discussion forum on the internet?

  On 5/11/2021 at 9:29 PM, dcom said:

Do you have skin in the game? What are you doing in the real, physical world to advance your ideology? Are you organizing rallies? Are you publishing samizdat? Are you seizing the means of production? What are you really doing to right the wrongs, upsetting the balance of power, toppling the capitalists, bayoneting the bourgeoisie, redistributing the wealth, sabotaging the government violence monopoly? What are you doing besides being insulting towards people you don't know on an electronic music discussion forum on the internet?

He’s here, lecturing people on an IDM forum.

  On 5/11/2021 at 9:29 PM, dcom said:

Do you have skin in the game? What are you doing in the real, physical world to advance your ideology? Are you organizing rallies? Are you publishing samizdat? Are you seizing the means of production? What are you really doing to right the wrongs, upsetting the balance of power, toppling the capitalists, bayoneting the bourgeoisie, redistributing the wealth, sabotaging the government violence monopoly? What are you doing besides being insulting towards people you don't know on an electronic music discussion forum on the internet?

the topic is not me.  i may hypothetically be a worthless piece of trash, but at least my words are aligned with reality and spoken in defense of the working class. i don't think this thread is the "discuss cyanobacteria" thread but apparently youre incapable of staying on topic.

what do your words have to do with marxism?

  On 5/11/2021 at 9:39 PM, cyanobacteria said:

i may hypothetically be a worthless piece of trash, but at least my words are aligned with reality and spoken in defense of the working class.

So you're just virtually LARPing a socialist on the internet for shits and giggles, all theory, no practice. That's all I needed to know, KTHXBAI.

  On 5/11/2021 at 9:42 PM, dcom said:

So you're just virtually LARPing a socialist on the internet for shits and giggles, all theory, no practice. That's all I needed to know, KTHXBAI.

firstly I never said this, and secondly why are you so obsessed with me? i may be pathetic, but what's more pathetic is a middle aged man obsessed with the personal life of someone they consider pathetic

does this have to do with the topic at hand? didn't think so lmao

  On 5/11/2021 at 10:18 PM, cyanobacteria said:

does this have to do with the topic at hand?

This is a topic created to accommodate you; it's even tagged all Zeff all the time. This thread is nothing if not all about you and your ego orbiting around your ideological core. Yes, I'm way more interested in observing your psychopathologies than in your regurgitation of socialist dogmatic drivel, but you are an integral part of this thread being what it is - and as such on topic whether you want it or not. I'll STFU now, I've had my fill.

  On 5/11/2021 at 10:40 PM, dcom said:

This is a topic created to accommodate you; it's even tagged all Zeff all the time. This thread is nothing if not all about you and your ego orbiting around your ideological core. Yes, I'm way more interested in observing your psychopathologies than in your regurgitation of socialist dogmatic drivel, but you are an integral part of this thread being what it is - and as such on topic whether you want it or not. I'll STFU now, I've had my fill.

there are many posters in this thread.  the fact that its creator decided to do some trolling in the tags doesn't indicate otherwise.  and frankly if its creator and yourself and presumably others are only in this thread to psychoanalyze me, then the more strange thing occurring is that act of online anonymous psychoanalysis, moreso than whatever psychopathologies you think I have.  are you an educated psychologist or psychotherapist? if not, I suggest you don't pretend to be one, because that is in itself an indication of a lack of understanding of the topic on your part.  you may think youre digging deeply into me, but youre really revealing your true nature, which is that of a malicious person not dedicated to reality

in summary you are very weird and if i may throw back your own apparent discussion technique at you, acting quite narcissistic in your abilities to dismiss my words as psychopathologies.  i suggest you find something better to do

im very happy to know "'i'll STFU now" because your posts are horrible

  On 5/11/2021 at 10:59 PM, cyanobacteria said:

im very happy to know "'i'll STFU now" because your posts are horrible

Thank you, I aim to please.