toaoaoad Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) On 10/25/2023 at 5:33 AM, aderei said: I was watching a woulg interview on youtube with an artist from detroit underground talking about their tracks....a super edited sound design thing....it struck me how unexperimental it was...every microsecond considered....and then last night I listened to Dublin 2022 and it struck me how I'm not sure what experimental music is....surely it has to be live? Probably a semantic rabbit-hole but: IMO, only the artist can definitively say whether a work is experimental. To me it means I don't execute total control over the outcome, which I think is what you're talking about in your post. Or it means I started out not really knowing where it was going to go. But I think "experimental" as a label can't really be applied externally if we don't know what the artist's process was. We speculate that something sounds intentional or unintentional, or things like "uninspired", but only the artist knows for sure. I think when music critics or whatever call music "experimental" it means that objectively the artist seems to be exploring unexplored territory in some way, taking chances, or maybe it just sounds weird. But we don't actually know if the artist hasn't told us. And sometimes it ends up being the opposite of what we think. Maybe Autechre is "experimental" based on what Sean says about his being more interested in exploring unexpected things that happen than setting out to make specific things. That's an experimental process pretty much by definition. Then there's the whole Max component: how much is controlled and how much is not? (We don't know the specifics.) So you could also call that experimental in a way. On the other hand, by the time they're out performing the live sets, or finishing tracks for release, they have mastery over what they're doing. So for us to call Ae "experimental" kinda undercuts their mastery - it's evident in music of this calibre that these guys know what they're doing! Edited October 25, 2023 by toaoaoad NVious, Crazing, t yst r and 3 others 5 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mTesc Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 4:43 PM, phudoshin said: Ready for Dublin Expand Is this PKD? ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide mTesc's signature Hide all signatures http://tesconpol.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wredny Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 I've got two tickets to the Dublin gig and we can't attend. Please DM me if anyone is interested. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattthegoone Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 https://www.reddit.com/r/aphextwin/s/wVZTWMuJqo For any record collectors going to Ae this Sunday in Dublin Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted October 27, 2023 Report Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 2:39 PM, Iwanttobefree said: SONICMANIA. Tokyo. Aug 18. Now or Never. Melbourne. Aug 25. Unsound. Krakow. Oct 6. Venezia Biennale. Venice. Oct 26. Vicar Street. Dublin. Oct 28. Expand Fuck I should really check these subforums more often...:( Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenlow66 Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 A Dublin livestream would be epic… Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaltwasserTV Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Jeezzbrrr this was an intense one t yst r 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phudoshin Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Guys... 1hr30... we got the london scratching track.. after a no messing beat driven intro. All lulled into a false of security with london b style tempo before.. im not kidding a... relentless high bpm worthy-of-afx pounding assault. Next levelness toaoaoad, auxien, kausto and 7 others 10 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide phudoshin's signature Hide all signatures Live sets from Squarepusher, Aphex Twin and Autechre New album 2024: https://keyfumbler.bandcamp.com/album/japanese-tea-ceremony-2 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattthegoone Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 That was mental, the best I've ever seen Autechre and I've seen them 5 or 6 times before auxien, ignatius, italiceyeball and 5 others 8 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 i can't wait for sound board releases part 2 neurone, BlockUser and Turbo Zwanengestuif 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phudoshin Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 They brought their fechreing Ae game Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide phudoshin's signature Hide all signatures Live sets from Squarepusher, Aphex Twin and Autechre New album 2024: https://keyfumbler.bandcamp.com/album/japanese-tea-ceremony-2 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattthegoone Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 zaizai, ignatius, jaderpansen and 9 others 9 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockUser Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Dublin was absolute killer! My prayers had been answered as I really wanted to hear more of second half London B, and that's how it started. They went all the way through with that London B stuff, and from then on, it was beats. BEATS, I tell you! So fecking good... The constant was that deep long tuned kick drum that you, yes, you, also love from London B. At around an hour they ramped up the tempo. I was seated up on one of the balconies, so I had a pretty good view of them and at some point near the end, S leaned over to R and they seemed to quickly agree on how they're gonna finish. Some few minutes after that, the beats broke off and this massive buzzing epic melody comes up, almost like a Trance build-up thing. First thought: "Oh yeah, there's a big drop coming". But then, another thought appeared: "They will never go for a cheap move like that". And they didn't. The melody was just cut off and the concert ended. I was laughing so hard. R+S did a funny! Think I saw both of them grin as they were packing up. I was too blown away to think of getting a shirt, when I made it to the stand, they had just been sold out. I highly recommend attending this gig, but it's in the past now. Edit: Who can tell me who that guy was that was playing as support? Sounded like NMB to me, or maybe someone else from Skam. Edited October 30, 2023 by BlockUser prdctvsm, auxien, t yst r and 5 others 8 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaizai Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Nasty snippet from Dublin https://x.com/gulffire1/status/1718914358195958198?s=46 decibal cooper, auxien, kausto and 3 others 6 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-a-m-o Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 8:46 PM, BlockUser said: Edit: Who can tell me who that guy was that was playing as support? Sounded like NMB to me, or maybe someone else from Skam. Minced Oath ? BlockUser 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 8:53 PM, zaizai said: Nasty snippet from Dublin https://x.com/gulffire1/status/1718914358195958198?s=46 woah! gnarlybog 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockUser Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:08 PM, d-a-m-o said: Minced Oath ? Looked him up, yeah, it's him! Thanks a bunch. d-a-m-o 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattthegoone Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 It was Minced Oath, Dunk Murphy he records under loads of different names, mainly Sunken Foal, his music is amazing, the volume was very low for his gig, a shame I thought Check out his other stuff on countersunk.org he has a new Sunken Foal album coming out next month on Frontend Synthetics BlockUser 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnwarAutokino Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 8:53 PM, zaizai said: Nasty snippet from Dublin https://x.com/gulffire1/status/1718914358195958198?s=46 acroyear3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockUser Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 9:37 PM, Mattthegoone said: It was Minced Oath, Dunk Murphy he records under loads of different names, mainly Sunken Foal, his music is amazing, the volume was very low for his gig, a shame I thought Check out his other stuff on countersunk.org he has a new Sunken Foal album coming out next month on Frontend Synthetics Expand Cool! I knew about Sunken Foal, but had no clue he had multiple monikers. Time to check him out more thoroughly. True about the volume, it really could+should have been louder. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattthegoone Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Check out Inch By Inch by Press Charges, I think its a masterpiece, the snap off the drums unreal EXTRASUPER81 and BlockUser 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) all those feedbacks about last dublin set are exiting yet I'll hold myself from listening to any bootleg rec from now until I go to the 7th april show, so as to keep it fresh Edited October 30, 2023 by neurone Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 8:53 PM, zaizai said: Nasty snippet from Dublin https://x.com/gulffire1/status/1718914358195958198?s=46 fckn hell. wish i was there for this. fingers crossed the recording turned out alright. roean pls Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 8:53 PM, zaizai said: Nasty snippet from Dublin https://x.com/gulffire1/status/1718914358195958198?s=46 There is one more which is this i guess: On 10/30/2023 at 8:46 PM, BlockUser said: the beats broke off and this massive buzzing epic melody comes up, almost like a Trance build-up thing. amazing jaderpansen, toaoaoad, italiceyeball and 1 other 3 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Btw it reminds me of Oversteps Tour beats somehow d-a-m-o and zaizai 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103798-ae-live-2023/page/8/#findComment-2963663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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