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People keep saying autechre have disappeared up their own arse recently.

I genuinely prefer their new stuff to their old.

Maybe they have disappeared up their arse, but so would i if my farts smelled of roses

i love their new material... (meaning the last three full albums)

to me it sounds like a logical progression.

Ae is still my fav music to do design work to...

Didn't care for Untilted to much, but their recent music is still pretty great. And I I honestly don't see big differences in the overall idea's being expressed, it's just the manner in which they're being expressed is completely different.

keep listening to LCC and The trees there are rewards i havent figured out the rest yet.

  On 11/17/2005 at 8:22 PM, affiajom said:

People keep saying autechre have disappeared up their own arse recently.

I genuinely prefer their new stuff to their old.

Maybe they have disappeared up their arse, but so would i if my farts smelled of roses

5 years and aint a damn thing changed.

Nah, I find a lot of people on here really love the new shit. Personally I listen to the last four albums (prior to Oversteps) far more than the rest of their catalog

You should have been reading threads when quaristice and oversteps first hit peoples ears

i love 2001-2008 releases much more than their old stuff.

start listen to autechre last year.

I still like the 1997-2001 period best. Not they I don't understand the new releases, I just don't think they measure up to the huge leaps in innovation from that time period. I love Oversteps though, glad they are moving away from the Machinedrum sound of the past two releases and back into synthy Max/MSP territory.

I think it's a bit all over the place for me, I don't prefer early vs. new or vice versa.

  On 2/19/2010 at 7:06 PM, six said:

I still like the 1997-2001 period best. Not they I don't understand the new releases, I just don't think they measure up to the huge leaps in innovation from that time period. I love Oversteps though, glad they are moving away from the Machinedrum sound of the past two releases and back into synthy Max/MSP territory.

Oh yeah, that period marks the biggest leap forward I have ever heard from a musician/group of musicians. Chiastic Slide's leap from their earlier, more conventional material is awesome enough, but LP5 just goes bananas with it's incredibly futuristic style (at the time and even to this day). Then, with Confield, Ae truely master this style and

apply it to supreme, professional, and incredibly advanced musical ideas and direction.

For anyone new to Autechre, I recommend Chiastic Slide, LP5, Confield, and a hell of a lot of hard listening. I wish someone had told me this when I started with Incunabula in mid-2008.

all of their albums are perfect

  On 2/20/2010 at 1:20 AM, Dragon said:

  On 2/19/2010 at 7:06 PM, six said:

I still like the 1997-2001 period best. Not they I don't understand the new releases, I just don't think they measure up to the huge leaps in innovation from that time period. I love Oversteps though, glad they are moving away from the Machinedrum sound of the past two releases and back into synthy Max/MSP territory.

 

Oh yeah, that period marks the biggest leap forward I have ever heard from a musician/group of musicians. Chiastic Slide's leap from their earlier, more conventional material is awesome enough, but LP5 just goes bananas with it's incredibly futuristic style (at the time and even to this day). Then, with Confield, Ae truely master this style and

apply it to supreme, professional, and incredibly advanced musical ideas and direction.

 

For anyone new to Autechre, I recommend Chiastic Slide, LP5, Confield, and a hell of a lot of hard listening. I wish someone had told me this when I started with Incunabula in mid-2008.

agreed, first time I heard LP5 was the most blown away I've ever been by an album. I also agree that the Chiastic through Confield period was their most fertile so far, though I like to include Garbage, Anvil Vapre, Cichli Suite, and Envane in the list. Draft also has a lot of magic to it. Actually I like a lot of their early stuff too. Only ones I consider slight steps down are Tri Rep without the EPs, and Untilted. Quaristice was the only true disappointment to me.

i'll agree with that. The sense of ruthless precision was replaced with a looser, more tongue-in-cheek approach. They mellowed out. I don't really hold it against them, except with Quaristice not having enough self discipline to release a coherent album and EPs rather than a bunch of messy versions.

  On 2/19/2010 at 7:06 PM, six said:

I still like the 1997-2001 period best. Not they I don't understand the new releases, I just don't think they measure up to the huge leaps in innovation from that time period. I love Oversteps though, glad they are moving away from the Machinedrum sound of the past two releases and back into synthy Max/MSP territory.

while i agree the jump from chiastic slide to confield was probably the biggest leap in sound any group could make, i'm not sure why people complain so heavily about the "machinedrum" era. first, it seems like all we really know is that they toured with a machinedrum... who really knows what they produced with? second, does the machinedrum really have a sound? i'd always assumed it was just an incredible means for playing their music back without using max to drive all of their beats. its just a crazy drum machine/sampler. they could have easily whipped out a track like pen expers on a machine drum and monomachines. draft is still filled to the brim with crazy fm sounds -- v-proc, anyone? untitled and draft are, to me, gems -- though i'm psyched to hear oversteps is more melodic. that will certainly be nice.

  On 2/20/2010 at 3:01 AM, Calx Sherbet said:

all of their albums are perfect

  On 2/20/2010 at 10:45 PM, bigs said:

who really knows what they produced with? second, does the machinedrum really have a sound?

LCC's drums are very close to the default EFM machines when you load them up.

Sublimit is full of "oh this is very very Machinedrum" sounds.

The PLC again consists of many Machinedrum sounds.

BTW I fucking love Autechre's work with the Elektron gear. I also love Elektron to bits and spent the last few days working the Machinedrum so hard. It's fucking awesome what you can do with 16 tracks + FX control + 16 "sendable" LFOs. And I haven't even got the sampling version. :o

  On 2/20/2010 at 9:20 AM, lumpenprol said:

i'll agree with that. The sense of ruthless precision was replaced with a looser, more tongue-in-cheek approach. They mellowed out. I don't really hold it against them, except with Quaristice not having enough self discipline to release a coherent album and EPs rather than a bunch of messy versions.

This just serves to remind me that some people have a completely opposite view to me.

  On 2/21/2010 at 9:03 PM, Greg Reason said:

  On 2/20/2010 at 9:20 AM, lumpenprol said:

i'll agree with that. The sense of ruthless precision was replaced with a looser, more tongue-in-cheek approach. They mellowed out. I don't really hold it against them, except with Quaristice not having enough self discipline to release a coherent album and EPs rather than a bunch of messy versions.

 

This just serves to remind me that some people have a completely opposite view to me.

hahahah agreed.

  On 2/20/2010 at 10:49 PM, futureimage said:

  On 2/20/2010 at 10:45 PM, bigs said:

who really knows what they produced with? second, does the machinedrum really have a sound?

LCC's drums are very close to the default EFM machines when you load them up.

Sublimit is full of "oh this is very very Machinedrum" sounds.

The PLC again consists of many Machinedrum sounds.

 

BTW I fucking love Autechre's work with the Elektron gear. I also love Elektron to bits and spent the last few days working the Machinedrum so hard. It's fucking awesome what you can do with 16 tracks + FX control + 16 "sendable" LFOs. And I haven't even got the sampling version. :o

ahhh, so there's a matter of presets or something. i guess since ae are so heavily known as pioneers of sound, there's a lot of expectation that they will have something new and twisted. i don't feel cheated when someone uses presets, permitting they compose in an interesting manner. wish i had the dough to throw down on elektron gear... sounds great!

  On 2/22/2010 at 8:17 PM, bigs said:

  On 2/20/2010 at 10:49 PM, futureimage said:

  On 2/20/2010 at 10:45 PM, bigs said:

who really knows what they produced with? second, does the machinedrum really have a sound?

LCC's drums are very close to the default EFM machines when you load them up.

Sublimit is full of "oh this is very very Machinedrum" sounds.

The PLC again consists of many Machinedrum sounds.

BTW I fucking love Autechre's work with the Elektron gear. I also love Elektron to bits and spent the last few days working the Machinedrum so hard. It's fucking awesome what you can do with 16 tracks + FX control + 16 "sendable" LFOs. And I haven't even got the sampling version. :o

ahhh, so there's a matter of presets or something. i guess since ae are so heavily known as pioneers of sound, there's a lot of expectation that they will have something new and twisted. i don't feel cheated when someone uses presets, permitting they compose in an interesting manner. wish i had the dough to throw down on elektron gear... sounds great!

Definitely true, the way they (ab)use the MD's sequencer is so good, who cares if they use presets?

I still need to do some serious jams with the MD and upload them here.