How to - Aphex style screechy cyms and snares?

Anyone know how to do this? On Richard D. James Album and Come to Daddy ep he does this thing were the cymbals and other high end sounds just start squealing ,screeching and stretching like mad. I love the way it sounds but I have never been able to reproduce it. I'm just wondering if anyone knows what effect this is. A Cubase vst maybe?

i doubt it's a vst effect - i would say that it's just imaginitive EQing and sample manipulation. dunno though - post a sample of the effect you're talking about and i'll have a better idea...

he pulls the plug on "selected" drumachine and it goes "aurghhh"

just because it's surrounded by snares doesn't mean that it's a single snare sound that been effected. my bet is that is some hyper edited industrial screetches/trains stopping that have been overlaid and morphed progressivly.

Its not a VST effect. Vst was only released in 96/97. RDJ album may have been released then, but of course it will have been recorded earlier.

Please names some tracks and the times the sound occurs at. I'd like to hear these.

  Wall Bird said:

Please names some tracks and the times the sound occurs at. I'd like to hear these.

seconded

Its a low pass filter + tape saturation.

tape saturator

reanimator

scanners

Possibly through the filter of a Korg MS filter's thing.

I haff ms-10 :kiss: and from my experience you can get some sounds like that.

  Thisket said:

Possibly through the filter of a Korg MS filter's thing.

 

I haff ms-10 :kiss: and from my experience you can get some sounds like that.

i REALLY want an MS-10. can i have yours?

No ma'am, no ma'am, no!

I used all the shit/money people gave me for graduating hi-skool and bought an ms-10. IT HAS A STORY. Plus it's cute, ya ming?

the secret is recording in a Bank.

I remember a button on Fast Tracker II back in the day in the sample editor named Conv that made everything go all screetchy and angry. I'm not sure what the official function of the button was.

I'll try to upload a sample of it tonight. It almost sounds like time stretching without the digi artifacts. it's not exactly a snare. Sounds more like one of his "clangy" samples. maybe layered with so it phases or something.

  plasticanimal said:

I'll try to upload a sample of it tonight. It almost sounds like time stretching without the digi artifacts. it's not exactly a snare. Sounds more like one of his "clangy" samples. maybe layered with so it phases or something.

try listening to the track "Dreaded Pestilance" on the Buzz Cainer LP TJ got the right idea on that shit.. that is indeed what you call screechy!

actually here is a sound sample! ... fuck i think Buzz Caner is inmy top 3 all time favourite albums!

oh i think it might be a noise removal style "squish" like track 05 off melodys from mars

  chris moss acid said:

  plasticanimal said:

I'll try to upload a sample of it tonight. It almost sounds like time stretching without the digi artifacts. it's not exactly a snare. Sounds more like one of his "clangy" samples. maybe layered with so it phases or something.

 

try listening to the track "Dreaded Pestilance" on the Buzz Cainer LP TJ got the right idea on that shit.. that is indeed what you call screechy!

 

actually here is a sound sample! ... fuck i think Buzz Caner is inmy top 3 all time favourite albums!

 

 

Those wonderfully distorted bass pieces are definitely made by running them through both the high pass and low pass filters simultaneously on the Korg MS-20. The filters then self resonate and cause that gurgling distortion that you hear on almost every song from ...I Care Because you Do. There is a clone out there by a company called Frostwave. They perfectly replicated the filter section from an MS-20 and sell it as a small module called the Resonator. I've yet to hear one personally, but if anyone else has and can vouch for it being able to accomplish sounds such as the ones in the sample Chris Moss Acid posted, then please let us know. I will purchase one immediately.

I think you guys might be right. It's on track 3, starts about 24 sec in on the clangy hi hat sound.

Sounds like a some kind of filter resonator. I'll try the one in Live but I don't think it's as balls out. Maybe double them up. Here it tis: afx_screech.wav

Sounds to me like timestretching in CSound, actually I was playing with Cecilia today and managed to get a similar sound, I'll see if I can replicate it.

Ok probably not the best example but I'm sure you can get something close to the example you posted with a bit of manipulation.:

stretch0.wavFetching info...

lol at you guys... its samples from a modem or speccy cassette or similar.

That's what I thought as well, but I don't think it is. The effect seems to be on all the fast parts at the beginning just not as much decay. then when the melody part comes in it is removed. Listen to the CD.

Of course he may be using a sound from a modem to create the hi hat then just let it decay.

Either way I like the c sound idea. Could do that to any sound.

I actually sampled a modem for a song years ago but it didn't sound as good.

  plasticanimal said:

I think you guys might be right. It's on track 3, starts about 24 sec in on the clangy hi hat sound.

Sounds like a some kind of filter resonator. I'll try the one in Live but I don't think it's as balls out. Maybe double them up. Here it tis: afx_screech.wav

that sample you post is most definitly time stretching of some form. The original source sample is strange sounds like a clanging or digital EXE file sound as well.

You can get a similar time stretching sound in Cooledit pro (now called adobe audition) by playing with the Hz and sample overlap % .most time stretchers dont offer these controls, typing in values like 300hz time stretching rate cause a very tinny screeching tonal sound (like what you hear in the sample). i wouldnt be surprised if he used something like cecilia, csound, soundhack or cooledit to do this. those are the only programs i know of that exsisted when RDJ was made capable of this.