Bechuga Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Reading Oblivion by David Wallace and I can't help but feel that anyone that refers to his fiction as 'inspiring' has probably not read any of his fiction. These are depressing stories designed to punish any character that dares to have fun or enjoy themselves or have any kind of happiness. Life is miserable and full of pain and DFW makes sure of it. Amazingly written but wouldn't it have killed the guy (it did) to write a happy thing for once? Sheesh! 'Incarnations of Burned Children' I tell you! edit: tbf one story does have a sort of positive ending to it, but that's a rarity so far. Half the book to go... Edited January 31, 2016 by Bechuga Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) His work inspired me to abandon my dreams and accept a life of despair and alienation, m8. Edited January 31, 2016 by doublename Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Job well done DFW Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 At least there's no false advertising re the title, though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Just finished The Cartel by Don Winslow. This and its prequel, The Power of the Dog, are the only things I've read by him, but they read like Le Carre or Graham Greene taking on the drug war. 10/10 On to the The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi, The Whites by Richard Price and The Hummingbird's Daughter soon. Edited January 31, 2016 by doublename Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) After a 8 year break from reading, I finally finished 'One hundred years of soltitude' by Gabriel Garcia Marquez last week. What a read. Sublime in so many aspects, detailed on so many levels. A truly spectacular read. The last chapter gave me so many emotional states: joy, despair, horror, peace and, finally, acceptance. Reveal hidden contents Pretty cool that Melquiades conjured the whole thing up, and that the last remaining Aureliano deciphered the secret, and in that act was introducing his own oblivion. I loved that bit a lot. Now I'm reading Contact by Carl Sagan.I loved the movie a lot, and I like this book too. Ellie is such a powerful and loveable character. The dialogues are very interesting, and monsieur Sagan has such a nice way of writing. I'm also reading an autobiographical book by Adriaan van Dis, a dutch author. The book is about him pretty much guiding his estranged mother to her death, while simultaneously writing down her life story. It's so brutally honest. I like that At the same, I am reading a translation of the whole Kama Sutra (+introduction +comments). I probably am going to take my sweet time for that. DWF-talk: I dug up Infinite Jest while i was moving houses. Although I bought it, read about a 100 pages a while back, it was a very hard book for me to get through; it felt detached, so unerringly detached in it's irony. I didn't like that. Having said that, I read that book a while ago, and wasn't in the bestest of state of minds back then. Also was dealing with some drug addiction problems back then (still am lol ), so it might've been too confrontational for me. idk, maybe i should give it another shot (year of trial size dove bar gave me a good fucking chuckle, i have to admit). What attracted you guys to Infinite Jest? Edited January 31, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Reveal hidden contents The Freud in me can't help to notice the connection between 'Contact', the book with the theme of the estranged mother and the Kama Sutra.. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I was attracted to it because I kept hearing how it was an impossible book and I wanted to see if that was true. I'm attracted to those kind of works in general, to see if they're as tough / crap as said, eg Gravity's Rainbow, Golden Notebook etc. Infinite Jest is tough in a way, but rewards you for persevering. Just gotta keep going and not skip anything. Reading on a kindle helps, especially with footnotes / arm cramp. The first couple of hundred pages are designed to be tough, after which it begins to ease up a little and make sense, bit by bit. The Eschaton game is particularly fun to read, if slightly overlong. Read carefully all the way through, even if difficult for you to do so. And then once you've gotten to the end, reread the first part of the book. Anything else I could say might ruin the fun... Here I can really spoil how the book is structured, if you're still struggling to continue (not plot spoilers but structure ones so don't click unless you're sure...): Reveal hidden contents The book is designed to be read more than once (!) and the early sections of the book (mainly the first fifty or so pages) only make sense once you've finished it. (I have only read the book once but will reread one day) The first time you read it, those first fifty pages make little sense, but once you have and come back to reread them, their purpose becomes known: the beginning is the END of the book, the aftermath. In particular, there's a name mentioned in the first fifty pages that seems a non sequitor on first read but when you come back to it, realise it's the biggest spoiler in the whole book. The namings of the years as sponsorship deals is also a trick to hide the fact that the beginning of the book is the end, and is cleverly done imo. Someone stated that the second read is like 'passing a blacklight over the text and seeing all the hidden plot points'. I agree with this, although if you read carefully you can notice a whole bunch of hidden bits as you read the first time. I am excited to see how much stuff I notice on the second read, especially knowing what I know from the first read. Out of the difficult books I've tried so far, Infinite Jest is the one that rewards the most imo. I will definitely reread it one day and I will enjoy doing so. Resign yourself to the fact it will take a long time to finish and you'll enjoy it, I'm sure. Took me four months to finish it, reading it bit by bit at work each day... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) I'm now reading Neverwhere. I'm not one for fantasy books and "fairy tales", even if they're adult-oriented as this one (supposedly) is, but I loved American Gods so I figured I'd give this one a shot. Also it has Spiral's seal of approval so it can't be horrible*. I'm liking it so far (50ish pages in) And to continue the Infinite Jest talk, I got it for xmas and am going to read it after I'm done with Neverwhere. Picked it up cause it's a classic and I'm a sucker for postmodern, detached, etc etc novels. It's worth noting I gave up on Gravity's Rainbow twice last year, god that book is a drag *it can be horrible Edited January 31, 2016 by ThatSpanishGuy Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 How to Build a Universe by some bloke - I really want to get into space and astronomy but I'm a fucking idiot, if anyone has suggestions I am all ears. I've also watched Cosmos and read the Bill Bryson one. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tec's signature Hide all signatures "They're about guns, lasers, robots with laser guns in space. Monsters from the future. Explosions. Sylvester Stallone doing a backflip on top of a spike while Robocop carries a ghost up a mountain. Bombs and swords and that... IDM is awesome." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Carlos Fuente's La región más transparente A novel about Mexico City (one of my favorite cities) Edited February 1, 2016 by logakght Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlybog Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Just finished The City & The City by China Mieville. Strongly recommend. It's a police procedural set in two european cities that exist on the same physical plain. Kind of Kafka-esque. Moby Dick is even better when you imagine the main character, Ishamel, as Zach Galifianakis. The first 20 pages are him refusing to share a bed with another man. Later, they wake up spooning. There are also amazing lines like this, "But even so, amid the tornadoed Atlantic of my being, do I myself still for ever centrally disport in mute calm" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gnarlybog's signature Hide all signatures loud flowers Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2415972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 On 2/3/2016 at 12:54 AM, gnarlybog said: Just finished The City & The City by China Mieville. Strongly recommend. It's a police procedural set in two european cities that exist on the same physical plain. Kind of Kafka-esque. Great book, there's a BBC book club podcast where he is interviewed and he seems safe as fuck, worth a listen. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tec's signature Hide all signatures "They're about guns, lasers, robots with laser guns in space. Monsters from the future. Explosions. Sylvester Stallone doing a backflip on top of a spike while Robocop carries a ghost up a mountain. Bombs and swords and that... IDM is awesome." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2416354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Sumbitches Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 On 2/4/2016 at 12:12 PM, tec said: On 2/3/2016 at 12:54 AM, gnarlybog said: Just finished The City & The City by China Mieville. Strongly recommend. It's a police procedural set in two european cities that exist on the same physical plain. Kind of Kafka-esque. Great book, there's a BBC book club podcast where he is interviewed and he seems safe as fuck, worth a listen. It's also worth reading interviews with him if you're looking for a generally interesting read and a gateway into weird and esoteric fiction, children's fiction, surrealist art and other cool stuff; he always mentions loads of off-the-wall shit. Definitely a cool guy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Leon Sumbitches's signature Hide all signatures Rain Over Mountain is out now; 100% of Bandcamp sales are donated to the Motor Neurone Disease Association: https://tanizaki.bandcamp.com/album/rain-over-mountain Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2417247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Now I'm dual wielding The Hummingbird's Daughter by Luis Alberto Urrea and The Savage Detectives by Roberto Bolaño. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2417281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 currently reading jane eyre, have moby dick in the queue (woop woop gnarlybog), few other things in french & english waiting to start...have simulacra & simulation on my computer which i pick at from time to time, along with various pdfs scattered on my computer that all fall somewhere on a spectrum of "academically accepted science//philosophy" to "total moonman shit" Q: if a person were to read one major work of english literature from each decade, would they be able to gradually transition into middle & olde english? Does the language make huge jumps at any point? Or maybe it's just that if you go far enough back it starts getting hard to find something for every decade... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2417628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Reading my way through Vonnegut's Letters and feeling a mixture of relief and depression that my personal writing hero, who I felt came closest to hitting the nail on the head about living (in my meagre opinion), himself considered everything he did trash, as unimportant art, as I consider everything else I do too. Not to mention that for so much of his early writing life he seemed to only have one friend. Who he then fell out with, and barely spoke to afterwards. He made more afterwards, but not many. And yet, he stays so polite, so friendly and warm to people, even new correspondents, despite his wife cheating on him and the shit in his life. What a guy. The current feeling I have is: so this feeling doesn't change, even when I get to my 70's? Oh man. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2417706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 On 2/3/2016 at 12:54 AM, gnarlybog said: Moby Dick Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2417709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) My next book Green Roomers will be coming out on the 8th of March after many months of self-loathing and revision*. Pre-order here for a measly buck / quid / hundred yen**! >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BKX5AXM << UK www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BKX5AXM << US If you see a typo in the synopsis, feel free to tell me: I spot a new one every day and wish I was dead every time. *still one last round of revision and self-loathing before I am completely finished with the book **I will sporadically put the book up for free fairly soon after release so you can wait if you don't want to buy. You make very little anyway... Edited February 10, 2016 by Bechuga Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2418295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 On 2/10/2016 at 10:14 PM, Bechuga said: My next book Green Roomers will be coming out on the 8th of March after many months of self-loathing and revision*. Pre-order here for a measly buck / quid / hundred yen**! >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BKX5AXM << UK www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BKX5AXM << US If you see a typo in the synopsis, feel free to tell me: I spot a new one every day and wish I was dead every time. *still one last round of revision and self-loathing before I am completely finished with the book **I will sporadically put the book up for free fairly soon after release so you can wait if you don't want to buy. You make very little anyway... This is awesome, nice one. I don't wish for this to sound rude; I work in a bookshop, and if anyone came in and asked for a book by your author name anger-steam would make my brain explode. You got a deece name brother. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tec's signature Hide all signatures "They're about guns, lasers, robots with laser guns in space. Monsters from the future. Explosions. Sylvester Stallone doing a backflip on top of a spike while Robocop carries a ghost up a mountain. Bombs and swords and that... IDM is awesome." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2418330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukeeeee Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I started the reading of "In the Dark Places of Wisdom" by Peter Kingsley about a couple of days ago. I'm enjoying the read, nice rythm and nice amounts of wisdom Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2418337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hello spiral's signature Hide all signatures https://salaamhelicoid.bandcamp.com/ Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2418433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 12:16 AM, tec said: On 2/10/2016 at 10:14 PM, Bechuga said: My next book Green Roomers will be coming out on the 8th of March after many months of self-loathing and revision*. Pre-order here for a measly buck / quid / hundred yen**! >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BKX5AXM << UK www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BKX5AXM << US If you see a typo in the synopsis, feel free to tell me: I spot a new one every day and wish I was dead every time. *still one last round of revision and self-loathing before I am completely finished with the book **I will sporadically put the book up for free fairly soon after release so you can wait if you don't want to buy. You make very little anyway... This is awesome, nice one. I don't wish for this to sound rude; I work in a bookshop, and if anyone came in and asked for a book by your author name anger-steam would make my brain explode. You got a deece name brother. There are already forty authors with my name and I couldn't be bothered to think up a plausible other name so I've stuck with initials. Honestly, if I went with my real name you'd have far worse headaches. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2418505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Mostly finished with The Hummingbird's Daughter, but I've kind of fallen of The Savage Detectives. I generally am fond of Bolaño, but I don't think I'm in the mood at the moment. Probably move on to The Sound of Things Falling and A Perfect Spy next. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2419329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Quote 10 pages into moby dick & there's a guy explaining why trying to sell preserved human heads to people on the street on the lord's day might not be well received noice Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/137/#findComment-2419872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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