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so did u guys learn anything cool from all this reading?

  On 10/7/2021 at 8:31 PM, Wunderbar said:

so did u guys learn anything cool from all this reading?

(Personally) I wouldn't even know where to begin. Reading is kinda my favorite thing in the world (rn, at least). 

I'm fascinated by people and their existential dimension. Many people around me (sometimes including me) are just perpetually having a bad time. No doubt some of that stems from the world itself being toxic in various ways, but very often it's rather something internal. ('Neurosis' tends to have a biographical basis.) So anyway much of what I read points in that direction.

(The three case studies by Freud are kinda *extreme* examples of this, the case of Lola Voss in Binswanger's Being-in-the-World too. They all entail these patients' elaborate 'world-designs', where Schreber thinks to stave off the Apocalypse he's gotta become God's bride and shoot this healing light out of his asshole to like resurrect all the world's dead and there's some mystical Sun-Anus that he worships, and Lola Voss is *ahem* obsessed with hunchbacks and she thinks an oracle God has sprinkled clues all around her that she's gotta decipher and if she wears the wrong dress and uses the wrong pen when writing a letter then the world will end...)

So...that's what I've learned in the last week lol.

finished William James' Varieties of Religious Experience yesterday - good stuff, he's quite easy to read, though I doubt many on watmm would care for the topic. I'm now diving into a collection of M.R. James' ghost stories. Reading short horror anthologies has become an October tradition for me, and I generally really enjoy the late 19th century stuff; last year was lots of Machen and Blackwood. 

  On 10/13/2021 at 6:40 PM, luke viia said:

finished William James' Varieties of Religious Experience yesterday - good stuff, he's quite easy to read, though I doubt many on watmm would care for the topic. 

I do.

I love WJ and also I've thoroughly turned my back on rationalism/atheism/scientism/etc

I'm jumping around rn, nibbling on a bunch of books I've amassed but not yet read, among them Whitehead's Process and Reality and The Adventure(s?) Of Ideas, some texts on Kabbalah, Guattari essays, interviews and his screenplay(!!!), also some Charlie Kaufman scripts that were never brought to life...

nice =]

If you get through Process and Reality we should form a study group, lol. I read Modes of Thought earlier this year and was glad I had prepped myself with some introductions to process philosophy (by Mesle) beforehand. I'm interested in tackling PAR at some point but expect to have to chew on it for a very long time. There's a YouTuber, footnotes2plato, who has some good lectures on Whitehead (he's also quite handsome, so that helps, lol)

  On 10/13/2021 at 7:46 PM, luke viia said:

nice =]

If you get through Process and Reality we should form a study group, lol. I read Modes of Thought earlier this year and was glad I had prepped myself with some introductions to process philosophy (by Mesle) beforehand. I'm interested in tackling PAR at some point but expect to have to chew on it for a very long time. There's a YouTuber, footnotes2plato, who has some good lectures on Whitehead (he's also quite handsome, so that helps, lol)

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Yeah P&R is fucking brutal--it definitely requires some secondary sources. Luckily a bunch of the main ideas are paraphrased in Adventures of Ideas. ('a nExuS of SociEtieS of acTual OccaSsiOns!$?!!')

But Jesus I own so many 1,000-page tomes that I've yet to read. I've got a squirrel-brain with books, where I just buy as many books as I possibly can.

I read like 2-3hrs/day (no job lol) and I still can't put a dent in my book collection.

Found a used Eschyle complete plays book for 3 bucks. Enjoying this a lot more than i thought. Prometheus Bound was great. 

  On 10/13/2021 at 6:40 PM, luke viia said:

finished William James' Varieties of Religious Experience yesterday - good stuff, he's quite easy to read,

Reminds me ive been wanting to read this for quite a while. Just ordered it.

  On 10/13/2021 at 8:32 PM, thefxbip said:

Found a used Eschyle complete plays book for 3 bucks. Enjoying this a lot more than i thought. Prometheus Bound was great. 

 

 

Reminds me ive been wanting to read this for quite a while. Just ordered it.

Henri Bergson's (poorly-titled) Two Sources of Morality and Religion is a beautiful book in the same ballpark. (James was a fan of Bergson and vice versa). 

Story Genius: how to use brain science to go beyond outlining and write a riveting novel (before you waste three years writing 327 pages that go nowhere) - by Lisa Cron

The last book-about-writing that I read--Several Short Sentences About Writing--was so good, so well-written that I don't even know how to describe it.

This book, by contrast, is the sort of rubbish you would expect to find in the age of Ted Talks and clickbait. Your readers are short-attention-span cavemen in need of escapism from their shit lives, so you need to 'hack their brain' because dopamine and evolution and...plus it's so terribly written. So lousy with cliche, so shallow on every level. Blech. 

  On 10/14/2021 at 12:17 AM, LimpyLoo said:

Story Genius: how to use brain science to go beyond outlining and write a riveting novel (before you waste three years writing 327 pages that go nowhere) - by Lisa Cron

The last book-about-writing that I read--Several Short Sentences About Writing--was so good, so well-written that I don't even know how to describe it.

This book, by contrast, is the sort of rubbish you would expect to find in the age of Ted Talks and clickbait. Your readers are short-attention-span cavemen in need of escapism from their shit lives, so you need to 'hack their brain' because dopamine and evolution and...plus it's so terribly written. So lousy with cliche, so shallow on every level. Blech. 

 

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Did you read Consider This: Moments In My Writing Life After Which Everything Was Different by Chuck Palahniuk?

Im intrigued by this one. I don't think i'll write a novel or anything but i usually enjoy what he has to say about storytelling and the creative process.

  On 9/24/2021 at 9:05 AM, brian trageskin said:

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I’m currently trying to finish up this post, so I can start another book.

For real tho- Tom King and Mitch Gerard’s “Strange Adventures” has been awesome. Finished King’s Mr. Miracle and this is a great follow up, but the art isn’t as good as Mr. Miracle.

  On 10/14/2021 at 12:28 AM, thefxbip said:

Did you read Consider This: Moments In My Writing Life After Which Everything Was Different by Chuck Palahniuk?

Im intrigued by this one. I don't think i'll write a novel or anything but i usually enjoy what he has to say about storytelling and the creative process.

I used to love Chuck Palahniuk. Invisible Monsters was my favorite novel for a few years. I read a bunch of his stuff.

But then I started to get this nagging feeling that he was leaning a bit too much on shock-value as a crutch. And it seemed to get worse and worse...

And then I saw him on JRE, and I realized that his whole shtick was just peddling shock as though it's some sort of inherently-redemptive experience. And that's when I seinfeld-in-theater-gif noped out of Chuch Palahniuk for good. 

I can understand that sentiment about Chuck hahaha

Other than that anyone has an interest in reading screenplays? Started reading a few and i like it. It feels like recreating the movie. Hacking it with the imaginary mod. If anyone has good ones send me links.

Might re-read Dostoievsky the Idiot. Found a cheap used copy. One of my favorite book. My problem with Dostoievsky is of course, that everything else seems tame and shallow in comparison once you go through them haha

  On 10/14/2021 at 1:10 AM, thefxbip said:

I can understand that sentiment about Chuck hahaha

Other than that anyone has an interest in reading screenplays? Started reading a few and i like it. It feels like recreating the movie. Hacking it with the imaginary mod. If anyone has good ones send me links.

https://www.beingcharliekaufman.com/index.php/scripts-writing/scripts-writing

Recommended: 

1) How and Why - script for supernatural horror\comedy TV pilot (which was filmed but unreleased, starring Michael Cera and that dude from Deadwood)...i really wanna see how thos would play out...

2) Frank or Francis - Charlie Kaufman wrote a feature-length musical, recruited a bunch of (then)A-listers like Steve Carell, Jack Black and Katherine Keener, and still couldn't get financing...

  On 10/14/2021 at 12:54 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

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I must say i agree with him. I think he is talking about the extremely weird aspect of reality than looking for shock. The secret pocket of reality living in people brains and lives that is rarely explored. I think he is looking for catharsis more than shock.

  On 10/14/2021 at 1:22 AM, LimpyLoo said:

https://www.beingcharliekaufman.com/index.php/scripts-writing/scripts-writing

Recommended: 

1) How and Why - script for supernatural horror\comedy TV pilot (which was filmed but unreleased, starring Michael Cera and that dude from Deadwood)...i really wanna see how thos would play out...

2) Frank or Francis - Charlie Kaufman wrote a feature-length musical, recruited a bunch of (then)A-listers like Steve Carell, Jack Black and Katherine Keener, and still couldn't get financing...

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oh fuck yea

(absolutely LOVED I'm thinking about ending things by the way)

  On 10/14/2021 at 1:22 AM, thefxbip said:

I must say i agree with him. I think he is talking about the extremely weird aspect of reality than looking for shock. The secret pocket of reality living in people brains and lives that is rarely explored. I think he is looking for catharsis more than shock.

Don't you find it a bit suspicious that all of his stories are like this? Like, the story about the hot tub, bug-chasers, incest and guts, the woman in hell where it's just semen everywhere, the novel about the gangbang and all the gross ways to die from sex...it just starts to look like he can't slow down because he set the gross-out bar too high...

(Btw I still really like Lullaby and Invisible Monsters)

EDIT: THAT GANGBANG NOVEL IS ABOUT A PORNSTAR'S. ANGRY SON WAITING IN LINE TO FUCK HER TO DEATH

I think artists dont really choose how a particular talent is gonna be expressed. It's a compulsive and obsessive thing. The subject chooses you more than the contrary. I really believe that.

It's in him. He has a talent for it and obsession for it. I don't think he has much of a choice.  Even if he tries to avoid it, it's gonna come back to him.

The same way Monet was obsessed about lilies this guy is obsessed about the weird dark aspect of the human experience. I think he is genuine about it.

I think what ultimately interests him is the human vulnerability that comes through strange events or extreme experiences. 

The way he speaks about those horrible stories in that interview always underline this imo.

I had similar experiences with Sion Sono movies. The extreme always underline the human element. It is only there to make the contrast with the human vulnerability greater.

  On 10/14/2021 at 1:41 AM, thefxbip said:

I think artists dont really choose how a particular talent is gonna be expressed. It's a compulsive and obsessive thing. The subject chooses you more than the contrary. I really believe that.

It's in him. He has a talent for it and obsession for it. I don't think he has much of a choice.  Even if he tries to avoid it, it's gonna come back to him.

The same way Monet was obsessed about lilies this guy is obsessed about the weird dark aspect of the human experience. I think he is genuine about it.

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That's a good point, actually.

Once you get to talk in depth with people, you start realizing that nearly everyone has at least one extreme or traumatic story of this kind that has happened to them.

I think there is a need for catharsis in the culture for these kind of experiences, told in that way, to integrate your own extreme stories  into your life and move forward with acceptance, it is why they exists. The middle aged woman telling him the heating pad story after hearing Guts was a good example of that.

Finally finished Stephenson’s “Fall: or, Dodge in Hell”.

The way he describes the tech in the first part it’s so weird how present it is. Like it should become less obtrusive. 
 

The story is an interesting take on biblical creationism, but the ending lacks a little. 

However, there is so much good material in here, and it combines a lot of Stephenson’s ideas and characters from his previous works. Totally recommend. 

Has anyone read any Robin Cook? He wrote a lot of cheesy medical thrillers back in the 90s and 00s, and I kind of love them so far. The movies made based on them are even better, so Lifetime Television caliber lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jing_(Chinese_medicine)

https://futurism.com/neoscope/bone-marrow-transplant-semen-only-donors-dna

Confirmed, the chinese knew some deep shit about the human machine, apparently semen somehow is prefabricated first in its essence in the bone marrows Damn bone marrows are important they may be the inner seat of spirit in this realm (malkuthian structure) from wich the yesod or gnenrative principle sperm force is later generated, along with the adrenaline dopamine vital animating precursors aid with the noradrenal glands. Would be interesting also if the same could occur with femenine egg cells