chenGOD Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 On 9/11/2011 at 7:10 PM, m u st co n t r ol t h o 4 said: those would probably give me a heart attack! The Ages of Extremes (Eric Hobsbawm) I can't find the actual quote but something along the lines of how communism's failure was the most soul crushing tragedy of the 20th century made me buy this in minutes. My first history book. I'm starting the last third and so far I'm surprised it's so balanced coming from a Marxist historian because this makes capitalism look real good, maybe he's saving big bucks / twists for a grand finale? Can't wait. Oh yeah this is awesome. Or maybe it's just that implementations of Marxist theory so far have been really shit? Capitalism has its good points as well as its bad points. Anyways - just finished reading B.R. Myers - The Cleanest Race I can't believe that this guy is a professor of International Relations (plus he doesn't know how to cite shit properly). The book has some interesting insight into how the North Korean propaganda machine works, but Myers seems very blinkered to the fact that his own precious US uses propaganda. He has no real knowledge of how IR actually works, and seems to think that he alone has finally penetrated the machinations of the north, and everyone else is wrong. He picks and chooses parts of quotes to fit his theory. So yeah uh, can't really recommend it, if you do read it, take a lot of the information and theories with a grain of salt. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1654186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) On 9/12/2011 at 6:59 AM, chenGOD said: I can't believe that this guy is a professor of International Relations (plus he doesn't know how to cite shit properly). I don't think I've ever met a professor who could cite anything properly. It's usually [statement surrounded by quotes][note to grad student: find a quote like this from someone and cite it] Edited September 12, 2011 by baph Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1654536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) Wanted some light reading, so I figured I'd finally wrap up the Dark Tower series, even though I know my enjoyment will decrease steadily the more I read. I read Books 1-4 between 1995 and 1997, from about 14-16 years old, and loved it. I read Book 5 roughly a year ago, age 29, and it was distinctly underwhelming. Now that I'm 30 I feel a strong urge to tie this particular loose end, for better or worse. Edited September 12, 2011 by baph Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1654541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertsk8er419 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide vertsk8er419's signature Hide all signatures youtube • last.fm Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1654728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drix Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Re-reading The Rum Diaries now before I see the movie. Was one of my favorite books when I first read it, and I can understand why. Thompson was an amazing writer, and the book is just as good now. I'll go get a glass of rum and dive back in! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1654927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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patternoverlap Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide patternoverlap's signature Hide all signatures New Prints Available Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1655153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 i was reading clash of kings Reveal hidden contents and omg when catelyn finds out bran and rickon had their heads mounted on the wall its the worst thing ever i seriously FREAKED OUT and whewf that it was actually some one elses heads i swear this book is genious, i love how realistic it is anything can happen at any moment theres no 'hes the hero so he cant die' every1 can get equally fucked just like real life Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide MAXIMUS MISCHIEF's signature Hide all signatures official sup barnstar of coolness Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1655420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) On 9/13/2011 at 2:43 AM, impotentwhitecapitalist said: Good for you, reading Nabokov makes you a smarter and better person, and that's a scientifically proven fact. I'm reading this: Edited September 16, 2011 by Iain C Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1656999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazador Mod Unit Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 On 7/25/2011 at 8:12 AM, verticalhold said: Violence (Slavoj Zizek) It bothers me that I wasted so much time reading lifestyle articles and opinion pieces by clowns instead of going to the source itself. This man is seriously funny and dangerous. Watch his Pervert's Guide to Cinema, then read this. I think the challops are to entertainingly poke you while bypassing censorship, what's behind is a coded call to arms. But in the end it is all a joke, always just a joke. His article on the London riots summarizes a number of points in the book http://www.lrb.co.uk...the-world-unite Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cazador Mod Unit's signature Hide all signatures no youtube videos in the signature, lolz much love, squee Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 On 9/17/2011 at 4:29 AM, m u st co n t r ol t h o 4 said: On 7/25/2011 at 8:12 AM, verticalhold said: Violence (Slavoj Zizek) It bothers me that I wasted so much time reading lifestyle articles and opinion pieces by clowns instead of going to the source itself. What does that even mean? Anyways currently reading: A really interesting look at the processes and people who changed the way we do international relations. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) on the World War I kick, there is a fantastic "duology" by a writer on the lives of fin-de-siecle and pre-WWI Vienna, by Frederick Morton. Definitely a fun read for fiction fans, and a lot of historical intrigue for the historians. Includes a lot of important ideas and origins of Freudian theory without delving into Freud's proper writings. -his feud with Carl Jung -The heir apparent's suicide and subsequent coverup -The strange sicknesses of Franz Josef's wive and daughter -a young Adolf Hitler -Brahms vs. Mahler, Richard Strauss and the relationship with his father, nice philosophical breakdown and analysis of the waltz as representation of society lots of good stuff. You might enjoy them chen. Also, I remember reading a lot of primary sources and then a book on the creation of the Versailles Treaty and it is infuriatingly hectic. Everyone wants their piece even though they, according to old "war standards" hadn't achieved any notable victories....the negotiations over Trieste alone are ridiculously interesting, and in hindsight surely show why we had another war a few decades later. Edited September 17, 2011 by Smettingham Rutherford IV Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 On 9/17/2011 at 4:29 AM, m u st co n t r ol t h o 4 said: On 7/25/2011 at 8:12 AM, verticalhold said: Violence (Slavoj Zizek) It bothers me that I wasted so much time reading lifestyle articles and opinion pieces by clowns instead of going to the source itself. This man is seriously funny and dangerous. Watch his Pervert's Guide to Cinema, then read this. I think the challops are to entertainingly poke you while bypassing censorship, what's behind is a coded call to arms. But in the end it is all a joke, always just a joke. His article on the London riots summarizes a number of points in the book http://www.lrb.co.uk...the-world-unite Ok, you have convinced me to give this a read through when i scrounge up some money (or find a library willing to get it for me). I saw an interview with him on the Middle Eastern protests, and he gave one of the best analyses of the situation IMHO. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazador Mod Unit Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 I meant: How a philosopher from Slovenia became an international star (The New Yorker) http://www.lacan.com/ziny.htm The Deadly Jester http://www.tnr.com/a...e-deadly-jester Zizek and Gaddafi: Living in the old world http://english.aljaz...3418599933.html Hey Smettingham your local library has it, I know exactly where it is! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cazador Mod Unit's signature Hide all signatures no youtube videos in the signature, lolz much love, squee Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 It's good that you can dismiss criticisms so easily. Smetty - that MacMillan book argues that there isn't a clear line that can be drawn between the Paris Peace Conference and WW2. I'll take a look at the Morton book after the schol year (I'm a sucker for historical fiction). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazador Mod Unit Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 it's bad that to take any criticism seriously if you don't know the text yourself. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cazador Mod Unit's signature Hide all signatures no youtube videos in the signature, lolz much love, squee Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 I'm just commenting on the fact that you immediately dismiss them as clowns because they write op-ed columns. Personally I think anyone who can be serious about being a marxist nowadays is a clown, but then again I'm not an economist and I don't even play one on TV. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremymacgregor87 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeremymacgregor87's signature Hide all signatures profundity Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremymacgregor87 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 On 9/17/2011 at 8:56 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: On 9/17/2011 at 4:29 AM, m u st co n t r ol t h o 4 said: On 7/25/2011 at 8:12 AM, verticalhold said: Violence (Slavoj Zizek) It bothers me that I wasted so much time reading lifestyle articles and opinion pieces by clowns instead of going to the source itself. This man is seriously funny and dangerous. Watch his Pervert's Guide to Cinema, then read this. I think the challops are to entertainingly poke you while bypassing censorship, what's behind is a coded call to arms. But in the end it is all a joke, always just a joke. His article on the London riots summarizes a number of points in the book http://www.lrb.co.uk...the-world-unite Ok, you have convinced me to give this a read through when i scrounge up some money (or find a library willing to get it for me). I saw an interview with him on the Middle Eastern protests, and he gave one of the best analyses of the situation IMHO. may I also suggest reading this... as a continuation of his arguments on abstention and power Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeremymacgregor87's signature Hide all signatures profundity Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide skotosa's signature Hide all signatures Artist Name: SkiaSoundcloud http://www.last.fm/user/skotosa Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Oh as well as the MacMillan book also reading: and as well as the World Bank World Development Report 2011. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1657916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 (edited) On 9/17/2011 at 10:00 PM, m u st co n t r ol t h o 4 said: it's bad that to take any criticism seriously if you don't know the text yourself. On 9/17/2011 at 10:05 PM, chenGOD said: I'm just commenting on the fact that you immediately dismiss them as clowns because they write op-ed columns. Personally I think anyone who can be serious about being a marxist nowadays is a clown, but then again I'm not an economist and I don't even play one on TV. One of the reasons Zizek is so interesting is precisely because people assume his professing of Marxism is a completely serious position, at least in the realm of the "real". What I find interesting is his ability and perhaps stubbornness to show how the psychological aspects of these systems are completely ridiculous and antithetical to their own professed beliefs....he even admits he is guilty of this. I think you either approach Zizek enjoying his somewhat deconstructionist writing, or you think he's full of shit. I am pretty sure he would appreciate the sentiment either way. Interesting fellow. I actually think that first article is a fantastic supplement to Zizek's overall style. Edited September 18, 2011 by Smettingham Rutherford IV Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1658099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazador Mod Unit Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 no no, the new yorker article is good but I have been reading that kind of stuff for almost a year and coupled with the tendentious / uninformed opinion pieces I was nearly convinced he was a buffoon. He is not. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cazador Mod Unit's signature Hide all signatures no youtube videos in the signature, lolz much love, squee Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1658429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Candide- Voltaire Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1659494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Just finished The Road. Kind of amazed the sun still exists. Good book for some perspective on first world problems. Also, the prose is beautiful. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30579-now-reading/page/53/#findComment-1659882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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