New Serge modules

  ten fingers ten toes said:

Divide their priceing schedule by about a factor of 3 and it seems to be reasonable. I just can't fucking fathom where they came up with $1600 for some and/or gates.

That's not all it is. You really need to do the research before you knock it. Serge stuff is made with specially selected, via batch-code matching, military and audiophile spec parts, has a 30+ year history, and has flexibility and multi-functionality that is often unmatched per module. To say that it's not original or flexible is just laughable.

You also have to account for taste, too. I've used a half-dozen other modular systems in my studio and not one of them came close to achieving the fluidity of work flow and sound quality that my Serge does. And yes, I've also owned a Nord Modular (original) and Nord G2, and neither of them compare in terms of sound or the level of satisfaction I get from patching the Serge. This is all IMO, of course, and YMMV.

some reading:

http://synthwire.blogspot.com/2008/02/serg...mpressions.html

http://www.serge-fans.com/index.htm

Yes but you see, an and/or gate and clock source has nothing to do with the sound, and can be duplicated exactly for a few bucks. The rest of that shit is just marketing hype. My dotcom oscillators cost a fraction of the price, never drift or go out of tune either. Their triple oscillator has 1 VCO with some slight enhancements over a standard one (the built in portamento, ok, but that's hardly a "unique" feature), and the "variable" wave has been done in other places and can be done on your own with nothing more than a mixer. The other 2 OSC's in it suffer though, as they are feature poor - don't even have a pulse wave out!

If you like the sound then yay but you're paying near Buchla prices for some pretty standard stuff. Actually the prices for the logic gates are above and beyond Buchla. It's fucking absurd.

For the most part the Serge modules are just like any other modular synth. i have to say that by far the best Serge's modules and this is indicative on what Bananalogue has chosen to recreate, are the Slope Generators and Wave Multiplier modules. I say with a lot of confidence these modules sound unlike anything ive ever heard on a modular synth before. The wave multiplier module i expected to do the typical wave multiplying sound, but frankly it comes up with the most gnarly and deep nasty FM sweeping sounds i've ever heard from a digital or analogue synth. The slope generator is great for doing bouncing ball type sounds too.

but frankly if you want to spend only $400 and get the characteristic Serge sound just get a Eurorack case and Bananalogues modules.

anyone who thinks that by spending a few hundred more to get a nord is getting a better deal, is welcome to it. nords are the retarded step-children that the serges used to steal lunch money from... back in the day when they gave a shit.

i've had everyone under the sun try to impress me with their analogue 'bad-ass-nes'... and the only playaz who could even get me to blink were the ones who not only had serges, but also knew what to do with them. sure, anyone can use em as 'bleep & bloop' machines... but i have been aural witness to gangstaz using them as real-time fx processors for live musicians, whilst the 'serger' was doing their own thang as well (and having the two bounce off each other). no other kit has ever come close. the rippingest highs as well as the earth-shakingest basses.. plus shit you could never dream of on 20 hits of acid in between.

ok

  firefunker4 said:

anyone who thinks that by spending a few hundred more to get a nord is getting a better deal, is welcome to it. nords are the retarded step-children that the serges used to steal lunch money from... back in the day when they gave a shit.

 

i've had everyone under the sun try to impress me with their analogue 'bad-ass-nes'... and the only playaz who could even get me to blink were the ones who not only had serges, but also knew what to do with them. sure, anyone can use em as 'bleep & bloop' machines... but i have been aural witness to gangstaz using them as real-time fx processors for live musicians, whilst the 'serger' was doing their own thang as well (and having the two bounce off each other). no other kit has ever come close. the rippingest highs as well as the earth-shakingest basses.. plus shit you could never dream of on 20 hits of acid in between.

lol

  firefunker4 said:

anyone who thinks that by spending a few hundred more to get a nord is getting a better deal, is welcome to it. nords are the retarded step-children that the serges used to steal lunch money from... back in the day when they gave a shit.

 

i've had everyone under the sun try to impress me with their analogue 'bad-ass-nes'... and the only playaz who could even get me to blink were the ones who not only had serges, but also knew what to do with them. sure, anyone can use em as 'bleep & bloop' machines... but i have been aural witness to gangstaz using them as real-time fx processors for live musicians, whilst the 'serger' was doing their own thang as well (and having the two bounce off each other). no other kit has ever come close. the rippingest highs as well as the earth-shakingest basses.. plus shit you could never dream of on 20 hits of acid in between.

Well if you say so *goes back to patching nord*

frankly i think its silly to even compare a nord to a serge.

they are designed imo for totally different purposes. For true modular synthesis Serge's are one of the best out there, i would rate them in the same quality/inventive category as Wiard and Buchla. I have a serge but i still would like to eventually get a nord modular, why? because they sound totally fucking different, and i probably would never take my serge to a gig far away, a nord modular especially the non keyboard version is ridiculously portable. I dont get analog elitism, but i can somewhat sympathize with digital (i only spent $100 and you spent $1000) elitism because i used to be very elitist about not wanting analog equipment.

  firefunker4 said:

anyone who thinks that by spending a few hundred more to get a nord is getting a better deal, is welcome to it. nords are the retarded step-children that the serges used to steal lunch money from... back in the day when they gave a shit.

 

i've had everyone under the sun try to impress me with their analogue 'bad-ass-nes'... and the only playaz who could even get me to blink were the ones who not only had serges, but also knew what to do with them. sure, anyone can use em as 'bleep & bloop' machines... but i have been aural witness to gangstaz using them as real-time fx processors for live musicians, whilst the 'serger' was doing their own thang as well (and having the two bounce off each other). no other kit has ever come close. the rippingest highs as well as the earth-shakingest basses.. plus shit you could never dream of on 20 hits of acid in between.

do you make music? id like to hear some.

All I'm saying, is that the nord is extremely flexible, and relatively cheap.

You can nitpick about sound quality etc all you like, but what it comes down to, is if the music is good.

And what you make is a result of your tools. So of course, a nord wont sound like a serge, or vice versa. If you want that specific sound... ok, go for it... but I rather work within the frame work of a system that is easy to use/recall/portable etc, and make quality music within that medium, than something that is expensive and in some regards (thanks in part to the expense) more limited.

If you are worried about an analog vs digital sound debate... thats one thing... I for one don't care. For me, its the useability of the gear that goes further.

And that said, I still think the nord sounds awesome at what it does.

  Kcinsu said:

All I'm saying, is that the nord is extremely flexible, and relatively cheap.

 

You can nitpick about sound quality etc all you like, but what it comes down to, is if the music is good.

 

And what you make is a result of your tools. So of course, a nord wont sound like a serge, or vice versa. If you want that specific sound... ok, go for it... but I rather work within the frame work of a system that is easy to use/recall/portable etc, and make quality music within that medium, than something that is expensive and in some regards (thanks in part to the expense) more limited.

 

If you are worried about an analog vs digital sound debate... thats one thing... I for one don't care. For me, its the useability of the gear that goes further.

 

And that said, I still think the nord sounds awesome at what it does.

I sent you a PM about Nord Modulars. Did you get it?

  Kcinsu said:

I still think the nord sounds awesome at what it does.

agreed, even if i had every modular synth in the world i would still want a nord modular as part of my collection.

  Rook said:

  Kcinsu said:

All I'm saying, is that the nord is extremely flexible, and relatively cheap.

 

You can nitpick about sound quality etc all you like, but what it comes down to, is if the music is good.

 

And what you make is a result of your tools. So of course, a nord wont sound like a serge, or vice versa. If you want that specific sound... ok, go for it... but I rather work within the frame work of a system that is easy to use/recall/portable etc, and make quality music within that medium, than something that is expensive and in some regards (thanks in part to the expense) more limited.

 

If you are worried about an analog vs digital sound debate... thats one thing... I for one don't care. For me, its the useability of the gear that goes further.

 

And that said, I still think the nord sounds awesome at what it does.

 

I sent you a PM about Nord Modulars. Did you get it?

yeah, sorry... ill reply now.

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(its not going so well :unhappy:)