Crapper roland drum machines

  chris moss acid said:

i been wanting to pick up a r8 for ages.. tho im only going to get a r8 mrk 2 otherwise you'll have to scout the rom cards for the r8 mrk1 which cost fuck loads anyways.

I thought the MKII only had about half of the sounds that came on the cards...

That fucking ethnic card is a bitch to come across, and is expensive as all get out even if you do.

there is double the memory in the MkII and ALL of the sounds from all the sound cards for the first version of the R8 are included in the R8MkII.

p.s. - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Roland-R-8-data-rom-...1QQcmdZViewItem

yeah, the cards cost a fortune. i have a mk1 and the 808 card. it's a nice machine, especially the 8 separate outs. but i always found the sequencer dificult to work with. it's been some time since i've used its sequencer, but IIRC it doesn't have a real time step editing mode (i mean, while playing the pattern) also, i think you can't change patterns in some mode... it's got a few quirks, that's for sure.

i still like it though, the separate outs alone make it a valuable studio machine.

  telikan said:

Been thinking about getting a 707-- how useful is it compared to the 606?

I don't know about the 606 (except that it has no midi) but i picked up a 707 yesterday and i'm in love with it:) I can slave Buzz to it, and it also has SYNC out, yay! I also love the way you can program a pattern while it's playing (I'm used to doing everything with mouse/keys). Plus, they're not that expensive:) I'm seeing 606es go for E400 now, 707s are not half that.

i have a 707 that has broken midi, i'm thinking of fixing it, sending it away but the thing is roland might charge just as much as it costs

how much did you buy your 707 for kanarie?

  YEK said:

i have a 707 that has broken midi, i'm thinking of fixing it, sending it away but the thing is roland might charge just as much as it costs

 

how much did you buy your 707 for kanarie?

I wouldn't send it to Roland, i've got a hunch they charge fortunes. I'd suggest finding a hobbyist thru the internetz.

Or you can buy a new one, i paid E190. Which might still be too much market-wise, especially since the battery lid is gone, but i just needed it badly:) I'm producing shit now, something i haven't done since ages

  kanarie said:

  YEK said:

i have a 707 that has broken midi, i'm thinking of fixing it, sending it away but the thing is roland might charge just as much as it costs

 

how much did you buy your 707 for kanarie?

 

I wouldn't send it to Roland, i've got a hunch they charge fortunes. I'd suggest finding a hobbyist thru the internetz.

Or you can buy a new one, i paid E190. Which might still be too much market-wise, especially since the battery lid is gone, but i just needed it badly:) I'm producing shit now, something i haven't done since ages

yeahh it's definately a great machine, maybe i'll find an internet site but even that sounds sketchy,

maybe i'll post a link in my local band /musician site...

  kanarie said:

I'm producing shit now, something i haven't done since ages

I find that switching to a high-fibre diet is cheaper, and more effective.

writing music on the can whilst crapping

I'll vouch for the TR-707. I got mine for $35 from some one on a hip hop message board. I use the individual outs to trigger an analog drum brain sometimes (Pearl DRX1), and a TR-606 syncs to it nicely, and also midi devices sync well too. The timing is not perfect as a master clock, but that doesn't bug me. Great sounding through a distortion pedal too.

my 707 has been through hell and back, but still plays out perfectly (minus the high tom ><). looks lush with a propper clean once a month. i used to trigger drum brains too with the I.O which is nice.. buti had to give the analord guy his machines back :(

the 1 bad thing about the 707 is the midi slave and sync problem.

im sure if you wanna know more i've litrually created hundrads of threads about the tr-707 in my time. with stuff liek hwo to tape dump and load patterns via tape and how to get the original 707 demo up which is awesome!

  chris moss acid said:

and how to get the original 707 demo up which is awesome!

To avoid an exhaustive search, how is this done?

  scones to die for said:

  chris moss acid said:

and how to get the original 707 demo up which is awesome!

To avoid an exhaustive search, how is this done?

switch the power on while holding the track mode switch + track number I

  kanarie said:

  scones to die for said:

  chris moss acid said:

and how to get the original 707 demo up which is awesome!

To avoid an exhaustive search, how is this done?

 

switch the power on while holding the track mode switch + track number I

  chris moss acid said:

my 707 has been through hell and back, but still plays out perfectly (minus the high tom ><). looks lush with a propper clean once a month. i used to trigger drum brains too with the I.O which is nice.. buti had to give the analord guy his machines back :(

What, you borrowed gear from the analord guy? :)

In my case the volume sliders are a bit crappy, do you have any experience replacing or cleaning them?

  chris moss acid said:

the 1 bad thing about the 707 is the midi slave and sync problem.

Yeah, i was kind of disappointed with that as well, I'm just very happy it outputs a midi clock AND sync when it's master:)

  chris moss acid said:

im sure if you wanna know more i've litrually created hundrads of threads about the tr-707 in my time. with stuff liek hwo to tape dump and load patterns via tape and how to get the original 707 demo up which is awesome!

Will browse through them before asking more stupid questions if the manual doesn't have the answer:)

707 is great, but her disreputable Hispanic cousin is way hotter

just bought a 707 for $160

  kanarie said:

In my case the volume sliders are a bit crappy, do you have any experience replacing or cleaning them?

i think there's some specialised potentiometer lubricant that you can spray in them, or perhaps a bit of methylated spirits? godamn, i should know this shit, my dad repairs stuff like this for a living!

  Iain C said:

  kanarie said:

I'm producing shit now, something i haven't done since ages

 

I find that switching to a high-fibre diet is cheaper, and more effective.

Depends what kind of shit you're into. I'm into acid diarrhea;)

  modey said:

  kanarie said:

In my case the volume sliders are a bit crappy, do you have any experience replacing or cleaning them?

i think there's some specialised potentiometer lubricant that you can spray in them, or perhaps a bit of methylated spirits? godamn, i should know this shit, my dad repairs stuff like this for a living!

Lubricant sounds like a bad idea, it might make the sliders a tad easier to move, but electrically it can only get worse.. i guess i'll just have to open her up to see what's wrong. Probably dust / dirt.

i just checked http://www.vintageplanet.nl/ they seem to have spare ones, wtf... E6,90 a piece!

I used to have an r8, pretty sad I sold it, actually. That little pitch pad thing at the bottom was very, very useful.

  kanarie said:

  chris moss acid said:

my 707 has been through hell and back, but still plays out perfectly (minus the high tom ><). looks lush with a propper clean once a month. i used to trigger drum brains too with the I.O which is nice.. buti had to give the analord guy his machines back :(

What, you borrowed gear from the analord guy? :)

In my case the volume sliders are a bit crappy, do you have any experience replacing or cleaning them?

you can get some really expensive £1 a drop cleaning fluid which basically 'oils' the slider and diminishes the dust.. i dunno what its called though.

uh i ment to say analouge guy. he lent me some analog drum brains about a year ago.

the guy lent me these

Pearl Sycussion

ULT Sound - ds4 pro muzer

Klone Dual Pecussion Synthesiser

i didnt really use them in any recordings that much.. and the one ep i used them on is a noisy acid one..

which you can hear -> HERE

and some less then good acid try outs

  chris moss acid said:

you can get some really expensive £1 a drop cleaning fluid which basically 'oils' the slider and diminishes the dust.. i dunno what its called though.

That's good because i still have that £1 you donated to me in Utrecht:)

I'm not going to spray anything just blindly into the machine, i'd never forgive myself if i ruined it. Maybe some contact fluid on the pot surfaces when they're opened up, so i can see what i'm doing.

  chris moss acid said:

uh i ment to say analouge guy. he lent me some analog drum brains about a year ago.

lol

  chris moss acid said:

the guy lent me these

 

Pearl Sycussion

ULT Sound - ds4 pro muzer

Klone Dual Pecussion Synthesiser

they look look nice and old enough:) except that klone thingy.

  chris moss acid said:

i didnt really use them in any recordings that much.. and the one ep i used them on is a noisy acid one..

 

which you can hear -> HERE

which was already sitting on my desktop:) really like it, although tracks 1, 3 & 4 sound more like 96kbps mp3 than 256...

  chris moss acid said:

and some less then good acid try outs

that SY1 Klone DPS track sounds better than less than good to me!:)

Well since we're posting music now, here's something i did the day after i purchased the 707, immediately after finally managing to sync Buzz (for effects and additional drums) with the TB/TR hardware. it's nothing good at all btw, just a small bit of twiddling, almost no programming. This probably belongs in that thread about real shitty music made with the coolest gear. But the fact that it's synced properly makes it so special to me:) btw the 909 that kicks in around 1:20 (and misses the first beat) is just Buzz, not a TR. With a 707 as sync master, who needs a 909? :)

Kanarie_Eight.mp3Fetching info...

edit: kpbs, not kHz

  Needlenose said:

just bought a 707 for $160

this thing could keep me entertained for hours... something's wrong with the step write but the tap write works great...

i found somebody locally who could fix my 707, i haven't gotten back to him though cause it's not at the top of my priorities.