plaid The more pop the more successful??

when you look at successful artists like plaid, aphex and boc etc it seems they take care a lot to have pop arrangements in terms of song structure and melodies. I mean sure they alter it in many ways but it stays a pop typical song structure with looping melodies and things like verse / chorus / verse / chorus / bridge / (verse) / chorus or verse / verse / bridge / verse etc.

I have the feeling that in electronic music music the more the artists use pop song structures the more successful they are

what do you think about this thesis?

i dunno. i just do what i think sounds good really. plus this is electronic music, the more wacky the better really!

autechre would be the exception then?

  tauboo said:

autechre would be the exception then?

no they even mentioned that they are doing this during the last interviews it sounded like a joke but it was not

even they sound very abstract they do it the same way the others do

they just alter different things

its not about sounding like a radio pop song this is not the point its about the way the songs are built

Aphex certainly uses the pop format to good use in many songs, though not so much on drukqs.

Autechre I don't really see it in, maybe a few songs, but I feel like their songs more just evolve in a way that makes sense.

BoC I've been learning about music theory and it seems they use a lot of famous classical music formats ABACADA stuff.

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boc and aphex certainly do sometimes. autechre doesn't really. and autechre isn't really in the same league in terms of fame that aphex and boc are. autechre are electronic music superstars, so they're famous in that sense, but you certainly won't hear them in starbucks.

come to daddy and windowlicker, for example, are very poppy, and those are all aphex is famous for. that and fake shit attributed to him.

(i once had a co-worker who noticed my aphex shirt and was like "i like the shirt" and i was like "you're a fan?" and she was like "yeah. he did this awesome stars wars remix.")

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come to daddy and windowlicker, for example, are very poppy, and those are all aphex is famous for.

And I think that a load of AFX tracks are pop, but thats a really good sounding pop : D

rondo form simply works well, especially in your average 5 minute piece of music.

I'm not sure about them being more successful, since that has a lot to do w/ how they are marketed ect. but it does have a lot to do w/ how "good" it is perceived as sounding.

We have been trained our whole lives to like the formatting of pop music, so when something fits it we feel like we are in a familiar place and attribute that feeling to the music. Fact is that people like an element of predictability in music.

I've heard that the best (most popular) pop music is that which straddles the line of predictability and surprise.

come to diddy video on mtv

I remember someone saying that Squarepusher's arrangements and overall technique mirrored Miles Davis in a lot of ways but I never really bothered to check up on that.