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  serpico009 said:
I just know it'll have that Barton Fink feeling we're all so wild about.

 

lol thats the first thing i thought of when i heard an artist director was making a wrestling film

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VENICE, Italy (AP) — Darren Aronofsky's "The Wrestler" has won the top award at the Venice Film Festival.

 

The film awarded the Golden Lion on Saturday stars Mickey Rourke as a wrestler forced into retirement who strikes up a romance with an aging stripper played by Marisa Tomei.

 

Hmmm... so this means that... it might just be a good movie? Hm?

 

it really should be,in the jury there were some relevant people like Wenders,Miyazaki etc.

 

wtf,Rourke was so gross with that tie..

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Saw this last night. Great film. Recommended. It's less 'visualizing' than Aronofsky's other films. That's not to say that The Wrestler isn't visualizing. Just less effects and special editing and such. Mickey Rourke does an awesome fucking job in this film. Very touching. Some really funny parts to uplift the mood.

 

Marisa Tomei is HOOOOOOOTTTTT, I caught a boner, srsly. Go see it.

 

 

edit: and possibly gets my best movie of 2008 vote

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watched the DVD screener tonight, not sure what to think. i liked Marisa Tomei, and Rourke's believability was painfully clear. the whole daughter thing was badly acted, and the 3 unresolved plotlines threw me for a loop until i realized it was intentional, kinda like the ambiguity of the ending to The Fountain.

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Just watched this, great film although it's the first of Aronofsky's that I think has no replay value

 

 

The ending

At first I was like WTF, then I realized with his daughter giving up on him, and cassidy leaving the match he chose to go out doing what he loves best. Couldn't have ended any different.
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  assegai said:
Just watched this, great film although it's the first of Aronofsky's that I think has no replay value

 

 

The ending

At first I was like WTF, then I realized with his daughter giving up on him, and cassidy leaving the match he chose to go out doing what he loves best. Couldn't have ended any different.

 

Its interesting that you mention The Wrestler having no replay value, I always thought Pi had no replay value.

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  beatfanatic said:
  assegai said:
Just watched this, great film although it's the first of Aronofsky's that I think has no replay value

 

 

The ending

At first I was like WTF, then I realized with his daughter giving up on him, and cassidy leaving the match he chose to go out doing what he loves best. Couldn't have ended any different.

 

Its interesting that you mention The Wrestler having no replay value, I always thought Pi had no replay value.

 

I actually think pi's a refreshing watch now and again because it's basically void of all hollywood bullshit (ie. love interest). The guy is just obsessed with mathematics and that and that alone is the focus of the film.

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watched it. very good. setting (I know it's Jersey) is uncomfortably like Western New York in spots. I once ended up at one of those amateur wrestling gigs due to it being held in a local run down shopping mall. It was probably the most uncomfortable situation I've ever been in. Made me want to PUKE.

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I feel dirty for noticing that on the NES wrestling game that he plays with that kid uses Atari 2600 sound effects rather than NES ones.

 

I really enjoyed it though, grand little film.

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  IRARI said:
i saw this and thought it was poor for a variety of reasons but i too want marisa tomei to give me a fast-forward blowjob

 

you expressed disappointment with the film on the other forum as well, i would be interested to hear the variety of reasons you felt it was poor

 

i thought it was great. especially the ending.

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The ending made perfect sense. You knew that slowmo shot was coming, because it was the only way to end the movie. In fact I really know he worked hard on "when" the Boss would start his song, like the exact frame it needed to start.

 

The guy only lived for the ring, nothing else.

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  soundwave said:
Will be watching this film later tonight! :-)

 

I love Pi and don't want to watch the Fountain again until I get a 1080p with blu-ray.

 

Did you know that Darren Aro...Arof...nos...nof...sky? Aronofsky? Whatever. Did you know that the director is planning on a reassembly of The Fountain?

 

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/12/04/micke...-by-kurt-loder/

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  IRARI said:
i saw this and thought it was poor for a variety of reasons but i too want marisa tomei to give me a fast-forward blowjob

 

you expressed disappointment with the film on the other forum as well, i would be interested to hear the variety of reasons you felt it was poor

 

i thought it was great. especially the ending.

 

spoilers:

 

rourke's performance didn't live up to the hype

the subject matter was not interesting to me

i was dissatisfied with the way his relationship with his daughter was resolved

the ending robbed me of much-needed closure

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  IRARI said:
  beneboi said:
  IRARI said:
i saw this and thought it was poor for a variety of reasons but i too want marisa tomei to give me a fast-forward blowjob

 

you expressed disappointment with the film on the other forum as well, i would be interested to hear the variety of reasons you felt it was poor

 

i thought it was great. especially the ending.

 

spoilers:

 

rourke's performance didn't live up to the hype

the subject matter was not interesting to me

i was dissatisfied with the way his relationship with his daughter was resolved

the ending robbed me of much-needed closure

 

so basically (subject matter notwithstanding) you didnt like it because it didnt stick to the tried and true hollywood formula?

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  IRARI said:
  beneboi said:
  IRARI said:
i saw this and thought it was poor for a variety of reasons but i too want marisa tomei to give me a fast-forward blowjob

 

you expressed disappointment with the film on the other forum as well, i would be interested to hear the variety of reasons you felt it was poor

 

i thought it was great. especially the ending.

 

spoilers:

 

rourke's performance didn't live up to the hype

the subject matter was not interesting to me

i was dissatisfied with the way his relationship with his daughter was resolved

the ending robbed me of much-needed closure

 

Not to disagree for the sake of disagreeing however

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rourke's performance I thought was well done as it even reflected his real life, it was probably the least amount of "acting" he ever had to do

 

the subject matter I don't think was interesting to many people, I couldn't care less about wreslting however I thought the character was interesting

 

all his relationships were broken his entire life, which is what the movie was about, the only thing he had going for him was the ring and that's all he knew

 

"the ending robbed me of much-needed closure"

see above

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  IRARI said:
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rourke's performance didn't live up to the hype

the subject matter was not interesting to me

i was dissatisfied with the way his relationship with his daughter was resolved

the ending robbed me of much-needed closure

 

This is my own personal opinion to each of the above points:

 

- I personally thought it was a fantastic performance, the fine balance between arrogance and despair that he played worked perfectly. It seemed such a perfectly realised part that he played for someone who was so great 20 years ago and now is essentially worthless

 

- I have absolutely no interest in wrestling and never have (except for a brief spell in August '92 for some reason) which is why it's even more surprising that the film gripped me so much. Surely it was more of a film about a broken character struggling to get to grips with regaining a normal life than about wrestling.

 

- By being dissatisfied about the resolution you mean the fact that it wasn't resolved ? Well to be honest that would be exactly how things would've gone. You've got a father who has ignored you for practically all your life, you give him one chance to resolve things and he blows it, you're not gonna want to stick with him getting continually hurt and disappointed when you can do what you've always done and got on with your life.

 

- Closure in the conventional sense really would've robbed the film, so for me the semi-ambiguous ending (does he die, has he finally made a come back, has all of his family and friends left him) seems like a far more dramatic ending than if it was all spelt out for you like most films. Great use of sound two building up the Clint Mansell post-rock and the crowd chanting to the sudden black screen and reverberation down to silence.

 

EDIT: Hmm, looks like assegai has written exactly the same thing !

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  Z_B_Z said:
  IRARI said:
  beneboi said:
  IRARI said:
i saw this and thought it was poor for a variety of reasons but i too want marisa tomei to give me a fast-forward blowjob

 

you expressed disappointment with the film on the other forum as well, i would be interested to hear the variety of reasons you felt it was poor

 

i thought it was great. especially the ending.

 

spoilers:

 

rourke's performance didn't live up to the hype

the subject matter was not interesting to me

i was dissatisfied with the way his relationship with his daughter was resolved

the ending robbed me of much-needed closure

 

so basically (subject matter notwithstanding) you didnt like it because it didnt stick to the tried and true hollywood formula?

 

no, that's not what i was saying at all

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