Guest boo Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 it's not lying, it's saying something as if it's true without knowing if it's true (is there a word for that?) ten fingers ten toes said: Glass Plate said: ten fingers ten toes said: No synths at all. you are full of lies. That was later on, and real purist Industrial fags will tell you it stopped being industrial then. Other purist Industrial fags will tell you it STARTED becoming industrial then. Still others will claim that.... Really just fuck Industrial because nobody can even agree what it is or isn't. You basically have to infer through context clues which Industrial people are talking about. all sounds like it's true, but is it? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CATS Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 peter and his sexy sexy moustache Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 well cats doesn't even like TG, and most later industrial like wumpscut and such used MS-20's and all that fun stuff. I dunno. Lots of effects is a major key for noise though. CATS, just learn to build your own fuzz pedals, and buy random distortion pedals and such. CATS said: peter and his sexy sexy moustache yeah that picture is amazing. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Wumpscut would fall under the German man named Dieter with a handfull of pills and a bottle of astroglide subset in my mind. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ten fingers ten toes's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tidbit Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 chaospad? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Glass Plate said: how could you say industrial music, and then say NO SYNTHS? that's practically a fucking oxymoron, you are a fool. Pretty much all the staples of industrial I know extensively (often almost exclusively) use synths. Of course when it comes to that, if you want to use what they used, you're looking for some crazy possibly expensive vintage gear. ( the Ms-20 is a popular one, not only is it great for industrial, but every one from Aphex to Mr. Oizo uses it) Merzbow and many others use EMS synthi etc. There's a bigger problem than just excluding synths though, making noise is a VERY broad term, and there are tons of subgenres and styles that can fit into the term. Saying "make noise" is almost as bad as "I want good timbre" , be more fucking specific. What artist's style are you looking for? Are we talking Whitehouse harsh noise? Gereogegege Screaming? Stock Hausen Bloops? Subotnik Bleeps? Concrete sampled sounds? Plunderphonics? feed back? screeches? LOL, Mr. Butthurt called Whitehouse harsh noise. :angry: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 u use linux right? Audacity. plus off to EKT. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 CATS said: i'm looking to dabble into the noise/industrial scapes, any advice on instruments or electronics to get into that? not looking for a synth. in b4 theremin build your own stuff. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dan C said: Glass Plate said: how could you say industrial music, and then say NO SYNTHS? that's practically a fucking oxymoron, you are a fool. Pretty much all the staples of industrial I know extensively (often almost exclusively) use synths. Of course when it comes to that, if you want to use what they used, you're looking for some crazy possibly expensive vintage gear. ( the Ms-20 is a popular one, not only is it great for industrial, but every one from Aphex to Mr. Oizo uses it) Merzbow and many others use EMS synthi etc. There's a bigger problem than just excluding synths though, making noise is a VERY broad term, and there are tons of subgenres and styles that can fit into the term. Saying "make noise" is almost as bad as "I want good timbre" , be more fucking specific. What artist's style are you looking for? Are we talking Whitehouse harsh noise? Gereogegege Screaming? Stock Hausen Bloops? Subotnik Bleeps? Concrete sampled sounds? Plunderphonics? feed back? screeches? LOL, Mr. Butthurt called Whitehouse harsh noise. :angry: LEAVE HIM ALONE DAN, HE'S JUST A KID!!!! DAN, NOOOOO! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-779863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 LOL! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-780225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 ok so what would splashing a cheap microphone in wine actually sound like? this is something im just gonna have to try for myself. actually i want to cover it in petrol and set it on fire. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-787444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 hahathhat said: CATS said: i'm looking to dabble into the noise/industrial scapes, any advice on instruments or electronics to get into that? not looking for a synth. in b4 theremin build your own stuff. The second one sounds really interesting. I really need to learn electronics Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-788051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 messiaen said: ok so what would splashing a cheap microphone in wine actually sound like? this is something im just gonna have to try for myself. actually i want to cover it in petrol and set it on fire. Fuck knows about the wine thing, don't do that. Set the git on fire and throw it through some windows. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-788383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeterVincent Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 maybe visit a faktory and record ? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-812363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 i can play yankee doodle with just my mixer and a patch cable. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-812378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 did any one mention contact microphones? they are always a great cheap tool. Attach them to what ever the fuck, and run it through lots of what ever the fuck. y'know? yeah! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-816311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Glass Plate said: did any one mention contact microphones? they are always a great cheap tool. Attach them to what ever the fuck, and run it through lots of what ever the fuck. y'know? yeah! Yeah! Original thoughts! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-816617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ministry of Undos Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The best noisemaker I ever had, and still do have come to think of it (which I do), is my Boss PS2 pitch shifter / delay pedal. I bought it when I got my BassStation rack (back when it was first released) and it was the only outboard effect I had for ages, so I got to know it really well. It's a digital delay, so it can hold a sound for as long as you like. Very easy to crank up the feedback and get your everyday cacophony, but over time I learned to play that thing like an instrument - switching from delay to pitch shift and back again, using the pedal to get rhythms going (it has two seconds of memory as I recall), working the sweet spot of the feedback knob so that the sound fell away slightly and then rushed back with a slightly modified timbre... the range of the pedal was excellent and with judicious use of the pitch shifter you could work any old sound into a squealing staccato loop or an almost analogue-sounding low burble. I want to dig it out again now, I think I got more creative with that pedal than most of the synths I've owned. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-818124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Ministry of Undos said: The best noisemaker I ever had, and still do have come to think of it (which I do), is my Boss PS2 pitch shifter / delay pedal. I bought it when I got my BassStation rack (back when it was first released) and it was the only outboard effect I had for ages, so I got to know it really well. It's a digital delay, so it can hold a sound for as long as you like. Very easy to crank up the feedback and get your everyday cacophony, but over time I learned to play that thing like an instrument - switching from delay to pitch shift and back again, using the pedal to get rhythms going (it has two seconds of memory as I recall), working the sweet spot of the feedback knob so that the sound fell away slightly and then rushed back with a slightly modified timbre... the range of the pedal was excellent and with judicious use of the pitch shifter you could work any old sound into a squealing staccato loop or an almost analogue-sounding low burble. I want to dig it out again now, I think I got more creative with that pedal than most of the synths I've owned. as a fellow PS2 owner i agree entirely with this post, except that my love for that pedal was outdone by my love for the yamaha dds20m Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-818187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 wow that pedal looks bad ass! also mixers + feed back loops are always great, if you don't own a good mixer, get one. Every one needs a good mixer. I need a better mixer, but Im po. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-819075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 You don't need a good mixer to make a feedback loop. And if you do decide to go the mixer + feedback loop route, don't get a Behringer mixer or any kind of death metal pedal, that sound is so ubiquitous it's not even funny. I wouldn't advise that route though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-819506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Dan C said: don't get a Behringer mixer or any kind of death metal pedal, that sound is so ubiquitous it's not even funny. I wouldn't advise that route though. but people love it so much! it's great!! :P Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-819604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sysex Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 he probably means along the lines of Einstürzende Neubauten... more emphasis on metallic percussive elements and distorted instruments. i'd go field recording and bang on some shit. dumpsters, cans, spray bottles, etc... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-819665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Glass Plate said: Dan C said: don't get a Behringer mixer or any kind of death metal pedal, that sound is so ubiquitous it's not even funny. I wouldn't advise that route though. but people love it so much! it's great!! :P There's only a few people who actually do anything interesting with that style of noise. There's too many people that sound exactly like one another nowadays because they're going for that one "noise" sound, which is ridiculous, because there isn't one. I dunno, I'm just a noise snob I guess. :grin: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-819714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Snobbery is a natural by-product of aristocracy, Daniel! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/36189-how-to-make-some-noise/page/2/#findComment-820002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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