so i guess i'm a bigger knoob than i thought...

so i recently acquired a volume of the vienna symphony library, the strings, (not from audionews.ru or anything...), and when i unpacked it i had a bunch of wavs and some exs files. well i didn't know what the fuck to do with those, so i did some reading for about an hour or so and realized i need a program like kontakt to open the exs files and use the wavs properly. so i got kontakt loaded up as a vst in live, and i cannot freaking figure out how to use this shit. all i want to do is load up my string samples in kontakt, but i guess things are never all that easy to do as they seem

map em' to the keys in kontakt.

Tutorial:

http://www.matsc.net/Kurs/Kontakt%202%20Eng/Introduction.htm

also there's a thread near this one with a kontakt vid

edit: You could always return it (if you can) and get the east west strings which are better and come pre configured in their own player (kontakt player). There isn't a big price difference.

are the east west strings better? i knew both were respected but i just went with vienna cause it sounds cooler.

thx!

well yeah i can go and get the east west samples too, but for now what should i do with these unusable samples?

also, i dont know what "map em' to the keys in kontakt.", means

or how to do it

that's why i posted the kontakt tutorial links. Seriously kontakt is a badass and very useful tool and you should properly learn how to use it if you have it. It will increase the quality of your music and helps with cpu load if you do a lot of stuff in kontakt instead of external processing.

watch that movie. That's mapping.

and yes east west is better imo but its not the "end all" or "best" but it works damn fine for me.

oh and after you map something you just trigger that key with the piano roll on your sequencer.

ok but before i start all this i need you to know that when i go for a pitch change, it won't be a pitch/tempo change! i need to be able to change the pitch of a sample without effecting the length of it...you know what i mean right? i wish i knew how to speak the proper language to techy music people

basically i find it bullshit when i load in a sample into a sampler and i play higher notes on my midi keyboard, and the samples just plays a higher pitch and a higher speed. you knw? so i load in a 5 second sample, and i can play it in a higher pitch, but the sample has shortened! what is this called!?!???! i want what ableton live can do, change sample length without pitch and pitch without sample.

if my confusion can be easily cleared PLEASE let me know!!!

ps drunkq

kontakt automatically adjusts the length to fit with the bpm/scale. Plus aren't there separate samples for every key in vienna? I dunno i only demoed it. But there should be a sample for every note within a certain range. IF not just stretch the sample out across whatever key range you want and it will adjust itself accordingly.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!?

lol

Torrent an illegal copy of Logic Express, (or buy it) because that is the only way you are gonna be able to use EXS files, and trust me, it is a lot better than mapping it out in kontakt...

im on a PC, no logic

  beneboi said:

lol

Brandi is remarkably helpful and patient, and your mind simply cannot accept the information it is receiving.

lol

You should get a good wordclock to prevent your samples from changing their resolution, if you get one with an adat interface you'll be able to make use of a full duplex 24 track audio suite without having to worry about jitter, but don't forget to dither otherwise everything will sound like shit obviously.

  ET said:

im on a PC, no logic

there's logic platinum 5 on PC,which has a full working EXS sampler ;)

EWQL works quite nicely for me, though it seems when you try to mixdown tracks at higher than 44khz sample rate some of the instruments sound a bit weird. Some day I'll have to buy the super good one that is sampled at something like 96khz...

ET, i think you should give up with the sampler idea. I hardly ever use a sampler myself - don't really like them tbh...just synthesize your own strings or use a premade patch on a soft/hardware synth.

BCM, i don't like the sampler thing either. but i feel i have no other choice. have you heard this shit? you can click around on different songs in that little player. it sounds fucking phenomenal! im pretty sure patches usually don't sound that good

anyway, that's why i feel forced to use a sampler because i want samples that sound like that.

and i've got kotakt 3 and i cant figure it the fuck out! ( arrrrrrgggggg!!!) its very frustrating. all i want is to play some damn samples but i guess God doesn't want me to

(btw, yes i've now converted to EWQL instead of Vienna in case anyone's wondering)

please help...

  Brandi_B said:

map em' to the keys in kontakt.

 

Tutorial:

http://www.matsc.net/Kurs/Kontakt%202%20Eng/Introduction.htm

This thread is a hotbed of hilarity. Kinda reminds me of that guy that poured sand in his engine to make it run better.. You know the guy I mean.

  zazen said:

  Brandi_B said:

map em' to the keys in kontakt.

 

Tutorial:

http://www.matsc.net/Kurs/Kontakt%202%20Eng/Introduction.htm

that video tutorial is old and for kontakt 2. i tried applying the information to kontakt 3 but the layout has changed so the tutorial is of no use to me

Try the NI forums dude: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/forum_us/f...isplay.php?f=33

  277: 930-933 said:

You should get a good wordclock to prevent your samples from changing their resolution, if you get one with an adat interface you'll be able to make use of a full duplex 24 track audio suite without having to worry about jitter, but don't forget to dither otherwise everything will sound like shit obviously.

that's true, except you have to remember that any FFT/spectral analysis of any DSP work will start degenerating the samples slightly due to the ol' nyquist theorum. If you alias everything however you should be grand, but you have to make sure you leave approx 2db headroom for sample re-normalisation.

i did it! i dont know what i did but i did it. except when the exs loads in kontakt, it says all the samples are missing, so i have to clikc on search filesystem everytime i want to open a new exs