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seeing as how coil has been a subject as of late, i thought id start a thread about peter christophersons earlier group. personally, im a fan, although i can definitely see how they could be easily hated. i love their new album, 'part two: the endless not'. i also read a pretty nifty (and exhaustive) bio called 'wreckers of civilization' that id urge anyone interested in tg to check out. drew daniels (of matmos) just authored a book in the 33 1/3 series on '20 jazz funk greats'. that i didnt find so nifty, but i appreciated his efforts...

 

vintage tg

 

 

 

new tg. note jhonn balance spazzing in the front row. and genesis p-orridge has looked.... better.

 

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  philia said:
man, that 1st and 3rd vid are hot. i've heard of this band, but haven't heard much of their actual works though :embrassed:

can you recommend a good place to start

 

20 jazz funk greats is where i started. i think that's a pretty good overview of their work.

 

my favorites are the more dark conceptual lps like D.O.A. and Journey Through a Body

 

the live recordings are also quite good, 2nd annual report is fantastic

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dammit ill have to upload '20 rap house greats' one of these days for you guys, its pretty much only entertaining for throbbing gristle fans

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I was trying to recall why I had looked this band up recently, so I looked them up again, and remembered.

 

I was looking at serial killer profiles . . . and now I can't remember which one it was . . . I remember it was a couple, a man and a woman, and the man sort of indoctrinated her, brainwashed her in a way, and convinced her to go with him, cut and dye her hair, etc.

Anyway, he got her to start listening to TG.

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well, that would make sense... i can see how very disturbed people would be drawn to tg. the lyrics to 'slug bait', for example, are *extremely* graphic and disturbing. veeerrryy unsettling

 

 

if you have the stomach to follow along>

 

SLUG BAIT:

Slug bait

Can't wait

Slug slug bait

Can't can't wait

 

I crawl up the grass to your window

And then open up your room very slow.

 

Slug bait

Can't wait

 

I walk into your bedroom

Then I look at you with your seven months pregnant womb

 

Slug bait

Can't can't wait

 

I get your husband to your front bedroom

I cut his balls of with my knife KNIFE

I make him eat them right there

In front of his pregnant wife WIFE

He's into his balls off

I look at him very slow

 

Slug slug bait

Can't can't wait

 

As he bleeds to death on the floor

I want you to say don't do any more

 

Slug slug bait

Can't cannot cannot wait

 

I look at your big heavy stomach

It's already moving a little bit with your baby

I use the carving knife from your kitchen

I start to perform the operation

You say "No, no don't do that!"

I say, "I don't give a ... cat's whiskers."

 

Slug bait

Can't wiat [Note: yes this is actually what he says!]

 

I pull out your baby

I chew his hand off with my teeth

I lick him clean

It's obscene

As you bleed to death I kill it

I'm just a wicked boy

 

Slug slug bait bait

Can't can't wait wait

Slug slug bait

Can't Can't wait

Slug bait

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I read up to the "wife as a witness" part. Listening isn't so bad, I have that syndrome where I can't understand lyrics unless I read them, but wow.

 

I guess if you could get used to singing along, you could do any sort of sociopathic homocidal activity befitting one with such derangement.

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wow, i really wanted to enjoy all of this.

 

i cant count the times ive seen coil and throbbing gristle mentioned here.

 

i watched all of the videos posted and started some torrents for the albums but it just seems really silly and poorly executed. i guess ill check back in after ive listened to the albums. god i fucking hate not being able to enjoy shit simply because im past the point where it was cutting edge and cool and now ive heard so many bands (i assume) that have taken the same idea and gone further with it.

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  beneboi said:
god i fucking hate not being able to enjoy shit simply because im past the point where it was cutting edge and cool and now ive heard so many bands (i assume) that have taken the same idea and gone further with it.

 

i can understand where youre coming from, but i think if you look at tg within their original cultural context, the music might start to resonate a bit more. as far as other bands taking the tg formula, or idea, and going further with it, i just dont think thats happened. rarely has there ever been such a group (in my eyes) that consciously tried to push so many boundaries and expectations. im just not seeing that level of dedication with most of todays groups. sure, bands like wolf eyes or black dice might have the noise thing down, but they dont have anywhere near the level of intelligence, urgency or dedication that tg had. thats why im so psyched about them reforming, although now they seem to put more focus on music than in spectacle. not that there wasnt focus on music before...

 

in case anyones interested, heres an interview with the recently reformed tg. sums up a lot of the bands past and present intentions.

 

 

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i have jazz funk hits and rafters. both on record given to me from a guy i worked with a long time ago, he gave me some cure and some industrial stuff as well

anyways, i listened to jazz funk or whatever and i expected something entirely different obviously, because of the cover art.... i kinda liked it but not so much the lyrics,,,

i listened to rafters and it did my head in, more intense then jazz

funk if i remember

 

 

i'm going to listen to these soon, tonight, and come back to this thread, see what i think about thi type of stuff years later and such

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  • 6 months later...

My buddy has an extra ticket so I'm going to see them for free tonight at some Masonic Temple in Brooklyn.

I'm definitely more into Psychic TV and Pigface but I'm pretty excited to check them out.

Every now and then I'll see Genesis on the subway or at a bar or something (he lives in Brooklyn).

For the record, "Hamburger Lady" is the only song that has made me want to vomit, sober.

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