Guest Yegg Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 277: 930-933 said: Yegg said: I hate Donna SO MUCH, what a drama whore cunt! Don't rag on Donna, she's hot. I think she's gross looking, she's got a strong man-face. Audrey is the best girl on the show, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-885926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yegg said: 277: 930-933 said: Yegg said: I hate Donna SO MUCH, what a drama whore cunt! Don't rag on Donna, she's hot. I think she's gross looking, she's got a strong man-face. Audrey is the best girl on the show, in my opinion. And Norma Jennings. Hottie! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-885932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 the brilliance of TP is that it combines typical soap elements and lynchian elements. the beautiful thing is the average joe can watch it like any other soap, but at the same time there's this endless amount of 'hidden' layers and crazy shit going on. absolutely brilliant! tv for the absolute masses. only since seeing the dvd releases again i realize what an impact it made on myself when i was young. o, the nostalgia. btw, norma and shelly for the win! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest philia Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 yes audrey is the best :embrassed: :embrassed: :embrassed: :embrassed: :embrassed: twin peaks rules, its my fave 'show' i guess Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 LOL Alzado said: james hurley was a good character. no no no. he was awful! when he went off and met that woman in the bar and all that shit. such shit. LOL Alzado said: the whole super nadine story line was pretty stupid. i also never really cared for the ben horne going crazy thread. oh god those two were so bad but at least nadine was funny, ben horne crazy was just rubbish windom earle ruined the show for me. there was no point to it and he sucked as a bad guy (except for when he tortured leo) and yes audrey please ;) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Benedict Cumberbatch said: LOL Alzado said: james hurley was a good character. no no no. he was awful! when he went off and met that woman in the bar and all that shit. such shit. LOL Alzado said: the whole super nadine story line was pretty stupid. i also never really cared for the ben horne going crazy thread. oh god those two were so bad but at least nadine was funny, ben horne crazy was just rubbish windom earle ruined the show for me. there was no point to it and he sucked as a bad guy (except for when he tortured leo) and yes audrey please ;) I'm not really sure I like Window Earle either, but yesterday as I watched the last 3 episodes he managed to scare me. I had forgotten the scene where he is completely pale, forces Leo to look at him, holds a bag in front of his head and when he removes it he looks at Leo with these crazy eyes and his teeth are painted black so it looks as if his mouth is a deep dark hole. That kinda scared me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Squee said: Window Earle llllllollllllll Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Squee Posted November 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Benedict Cumberbatch said: Squee said: Window Earle llllllollllllll Ssh! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Benedict Cumberbatch said: windom earle ruined the show for me. there was no point to it and he sucked as a bad guy (except for when he tortured leo) That chess BS was such BS. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caretstik Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 BCM said: Fire Walk With Me is fucking quality "I've got the front desk now, he was never here". I remember watching the first part of it completely and utterly fucked. I felt the same sense of complete and utter disorientation when I watched it again straight for the first time. This remains one of my very favourite forty minutes (or whatever it was) of cinema. First series pwns as well. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxus Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey audrey (nsfw) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « great show, great soundtrack. angelo badalamenti is a badass. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxus's signature Hide all signatures art Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 season 1 > season 2 big time. The cliffhanger from season 1 to season 2 was pretty spectacular, however. The first and last episodes of season 2 were near perfect but almost everything in between was pretty lame. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest philia Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 SPOILERS just in case i definitely preferred season 1, but the way the series ended (last episode ) was perfect IMHO. for me the worst part was that awkward subplot with james and that older lady in season 2. also i kinda hoped the cooper and audrey relationship develoepd further :embrassed: :kiss: :embrassed: :embrassed: :embrassed: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 philia said: also i kinda hoped the cooper and audrey relationship develoepd further :embrassed: :kiss: :embrassed: :embrassed: :embrassed: Yeah, the Heather Graham relationship seemed so forced. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 aye but billy zane had a plane Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-886633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) I just dug up this track last night, and this has got to be my favorite scene from Twin Peaks - ever. This scene has everything. It's intriguing, a bit scary, beautiful, a bit sad, weird and all of this pretty much sums up everything I love about David Lynch. And Jimmy Scott is just...wauw. Edited December 8, 2008 by Squee Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Squee said: Mädchen Amick (Shelly Johnson) grew more and more hot over the years, but now she doesn't look like herself at ALL. I bet you can blame the facelifts. Yeah she was always my fave...you're right something happened to her face, but not nearly as bad as Lara Flynn Boyle, lol: from this: to this: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 lumpenprol said: Squee said: Mädchen Amick (Shelly Johnson) grew more and more hot over the years, but now she doesn't look like herself at ALL. I bet you can blame the facelifts. Yeah she was always my fave...you're right something happened to her face, but not nearly as bad as Lara Flynn Boyle, lol: from this: to this: It's the Blob! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MajaIloveyou Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 The song 'Wrapped In Plastic' is an overt reference to the early 1990's hit TV series Twin Peaks by David Lynch (a longtime influence on Manson) and Mark Frost which still garners an obsessive cult following. Manson has said that one aspect of the song's title was the superficial ideal nature of suburban households who wrap their couches in protective plastic covers to keep their expensive sofa cushions pristine. Literally to keep out the dirt, which can be seen as a metaphor for their isolationist attitudes toward the repugnancy of those who are not part of their so-called "status quo". The irony though, as Manson has pointed out, is that the practice dually acts as the metaphorical aspect of keeping the dirt inside; the lie of the false veneer atop the sordid secrets kept desperately from prying eyes. Twin Peaks illustrated this verbatim. The series opened with the line, "She's dead. Wrapped in plastic," spoken over the line of a 911 call reporting the discovery of a dead body wrapped in a thick transparent plastic. It was high school prom queen, Laura Palmer, the pride and joy of the town Twin Peaks. As layers of complexity unfold it's discovered that she is not actually the all-American ideal teen dream she's perceived as but that she's addicted to cocaine, was actively working as a prostitute at an over-the-border casino/brothel in Canada and has a polar opposite secret life, that progressively unraveled to become much darker involving an evil entity which persecuted her, from whom she viewed death as being the only solace from. The series involved continual use of symbolism (both invented for the show and symbolism presently existing, from the Bible, Eastern philosophy, folklore, et al) and many bizarre, comedic elements were employed to counterbalance the heavy nature of the subject matter, including a young transvestite David Duchovny (pre- X-Files / Red Shoe Diaries). It was the sensation that had all of America asking "Who Killed Laura Palmer?" for two years. Who, or what, killed Laura Palmer was ultimately her father who would visit here nightly to rape her in an incestuous tryst. The crux of the series however was not merely this itself but that Laura's father was possessed by an evil spirit known only as "BOB", who originated from a netherworld known as the Black Lodge. The Black Lodge is a metaphorical alter dimension and has appeared in various Hermetic Western occult literature since the late Nineteenth Century, namely spoken of in Madame Blavatsky's 'The Secret Doctrine' (which Manson cited as having a large influence on Holy Wood) and also appearing in Aleister Crowley's 1917 novel, 'Moonchild.' In Twin Peaks, it is a very real place who's entrance is found in the nearby woods, and who's inhabitants exert their occult influence over the town via the thin veil separating the two. The series climaxes in episode 29, the last episode, where the show's protagonist FBI Agent, Dale Cooper, is able to enter the Black Lodge to confront "BOB" and the evil within it. Dream interludes throughout the series have shown glimpses into the Lodge including a doppelganger of Laura Palmer who has imparted clues to Dale since the second episode. The above is an extremely abridged synopsis and investigating the series further (which has been a personal favourite of the this author since the Bravo Network's re-airing in early 2000) is recommended. However, in the final episode when Agent Cooper once again encounters Laura Palmer's doppelganger, as the evil of Black Lodge begins to unfold, the harrowing scream she unleashes was sampled and appears as the opening and closing of 'Wrapped In Plastic'. an apparition of a white horse seen moments before the murder of Laura Palmer's "twin" cousin, Maddie, is murdered again by Laura's father, possessed by 'BOB'. An example of symbolism used by the series, a white horse has long been a symbol of death when used as a literary device, an allusion which finds its origins in the Bible. Coinciding, yet inverted, symbolism by Manson in the video for 'Tourniquet' during the Antichrist Svperstar era. A surreal scene in which a floating Manson is accompanied by the other band members in an ethereal, almost after-life reminiscent, setting (which is the climax of the video after something of a dead and decaying Manson is seen prior throughout) with a black horse juxtaposed amidst the apparently fallen souls in this scenario. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 ive never seen this but always wanted to. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 messiaen said: ive never seen this but always wanted to. Then I suggest you hurry out of this thread until someone spoils everything for you :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 MajaIloveyou said: The song 'Wrapped In Plastic' is an overt reference to the early 1990's hit TV series Twin Peaks by David Lynch (a longtime influence on Manson) and Mark Frost which still garners an obsessive cult following. Manson has said that one aspect of the song's title was the superficial ideal nature of suburban households who wrap their couches in protective plastic covers to keep their expensive sofa cushions pristine. Literally to keep out the dirt, which can be seen as a metaphor for their isolationist attitudes toward the repugnancy of those who are not part of their so-called "status quo". The irony though, as Manson has pointed out, is that the practice dually acts as the metaphorical aspect of keeping the dirt inside; the lie of the false veneer atop the sordid secrets kept desperately from prying eyes. Twin Peaks illustrated this verbatim. The series opened with the line, "She's dead. Wrapped in plastic," spoken over the line of a 911 call reporting the discovery of a dead body wrapped in a thick transparent plastic. It was high school prom queen, Laura Palmer, the pride and joy of the town Twin Peaks. As layers of complexity unfold it's discovered that she is not actually the all-American ideal teen dream she's perceived as but that she's addicted to cocaine, was actively working as a prostitute at an over-the-border casino/brothel in Canada and has a polar opposite secret life, that progressively unraveled to become much darker involving an evil entity which persecuted her, from whom she viewed death as being the only solace from. The series involved continual use of symbolism (both invented for the show and symbolism presently existing, from the Bible, Eastern philosophy, folklore, et al) and many bizarre, comedic elements were employed to counterbalance the heavy nature of the subject matter, including a young transvestite David Duchovny (pre- X-Files / Red Shoe Diaries). It was the sensation that had all of America asking "Who Killed Laura Palmer?" for two years. Who, or what, killed Laura Palmer was ultimately her father who would visit here nightly to rape her in an incestuous tryst. The crux of the series however was not merely this itself but that Laura's father was possessed by an evil spirit known only as "BOB", who originated from a netherworld known as the Black Lodge. The Black Lodge is a metaphorical alter dimension and has appeared in various Hermetic Western occult literature since the late Nineteenth Century, namely spoken of in Madame Blavatsky's 'The Secret Doctrine' (which Manson cited as having a large influence on Holy Wood) and also appearing in Aleister Crowley's 1917 novel, 'Moonchild.' In Twin Peaks, it is a very real place who's entrance is found in the nearby woods, and who's inhabitants exert their occult influence over the town via the thin veil separating the two. The series climaxes in episode 29, the last episode, where the show's protagonist FBI Agent, Dale Cooper, is able to enter the Black Lodge to confront "BOB" and the evil within it. Dream interludes throughout the series have shown glimpses into the Lodge including a doppelganger of Laura Palmer who has imparted clues to Dale since the second episode. The above is an extremely abridged synopsis and investigating the series further (which has been a personal favourite of the this author since the Bravo Network's re-airing in early 2000) is recommended. However, in the final episode when Agent Cooper once again encounters Laura Palmer's doppelganger, as the evil of Black Lodge begins to unfold, the harrowing scream she unleashes was sampled and appears as the opening and closing of 'Wrapped In Plastic'. an apparition of a white horse seen moments before the murder of Laura Palmer's "twin" cousin, Maddie, is murdered again by Laura's father, possessed by 'BOB'. An example of symbolism used by the series, a white horse has long been a symbol of death when used as a literary device, an allusion which finds its origins in the Bible. Coinciding, yet inverted, symbolism by Manson in the video for 'Tourniquet' during the Antichrist Svperstar era. A surreal scene in which a floating Manson is accompanied by the other band members in an ethereal, almost after-life reminiscent, setting (which is the climax of the video after something of a dead and decaying Manson is seen prior throughout) with a black horse juxtaposed amidst the apparently fallen souls in this scenario. Sounds like a bunch of BS. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 anyone seen any recent Sherilyn Fenn photos? shes 43 now i guess. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Benedict Cumberbatch said: anyone seen any recent Sherilyn Fenn photos? shes 43 now i guess. Yeah, she dyed her hair blond and looks kinda white trash-ish Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40267-twin-peaks/page/2/#findComment-893558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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