Guest Yegg Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) Etch said: I don't think the advance will come not from technological means but from bio-mechanical developents. Genetic design, bigger brains and a better understanding of how we work and how we can work better. Thats the future, once we step outside the laws of evolution we've cracked it. Man will decide his own existence, the possibilities are endless. It seems far more comprehendable than machines thinking. The brain is the most powerful and complex device we know. Lets work with that. It'll probably be a medium between the two, CYBORGIAN REVOLUTION. Edited January 11, 2009 by Yegg Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocide Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Look, sorry guys, I don't mean to burst your big overblown poindexter internet futurist bubbles here, but there is an easier answer to life and living, and you can find out all about it in the King James Version of the New Testament of the Holy Bible. Did Ray Kurzwiel give his only begotten son so that whomever believed in him would not perish but would have everlasting life in the kingdom of Heaven? No. I don't think so. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 blutac said: Yegg said: SOLID STATE ENTITY...OOOoooooOooOOO Quote According to Lilly, the network of computation-capable solid state systems (electronics) engineered by humans will eventually develop (or has already developed) into an autonomous life-form. Since the optimal survival conditions for this life-form (low-temperature vacuum) are drastically different from those needed by humans (room temperature aerial atmosphere and adequate water supply), Lilly predicted (or "prophesied", based on his ketamine-induced visions) a dramatic conflict between the two forms of intelligence. Lilly's an example of finding out something cool then being dissapointed. Got really into the whole isolation tank thing, then found out he was basically a massive ket head who spent most of his career trying to bridge the language gap of humans and dolphins... His contained mind research was pretty awesome before the "beings" told him to take LSD, I wouldn't dismiss his work pre-drugs. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Etch said: I don't think the advance will come not from technological means but from bio-mechanical developents. Genetic design, bigger brains and a better understanding of how we work and how we can work better. Thats the future, once we step outside the laws of evolution we've cracked it. Man will decide his own existence, the possibilities are endless. It seems far more comprehendable than machines thinking. The brain is the most powerful and complex device we know. Lets work with that. that's another option if we can't crack AI (we will). Enhancing our own intelligence could just as easily create a singularity in it's own right. We'd just be enhancing our intelligence in order to enhance our intelligence further, and on, and on. The plus side of that is, is that we could control it much better and wouldn't have to worry about getting swatted like bugs by these AI's we've created. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 The joke is on big business, they're rushing toward a future where money will be irrelevant. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm constantly fapping over the prospect a post scarcity society. Everyone fuck me in the mouth. *gets came on* Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Betty said: The joke is on big business, they're rushing toward a future where money will be irrelevant. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Not rushing quickly enough to give us a capable electric car. /conspiracy Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) Anyway, we can only wait until we've reaped the SLHC. I'm sure we'll be engineering on a whole other scale soon enough. We'll have a virtually unlimited level of information-capacity, comparable to our understanding of the human brain, and whacked-out methods of power generation. Fuck. I just hope I live long enough and can afford to join a burgeoning new society in space (massively unlikely (essentially impossible)). Edited January 11, 2009 by Gary C Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 *rinses everyone off* Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Electric Car? We're gonna have bzzzzwowpewpewpewtransportatiobigcrytalteleportationjammount ains n' stuff! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EDGEY Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm about half way through "The Singularity", pretty interesting stuff. I was going to post the JPG of Moore's Law applied to shaving... but I couldn't find it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 so..... terrence mckenna Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 EDGEY said: I'm about half way through "The Singularity", pretty interesting stuff. I was going to post the JPG of Moore's Law applied to shaving... but I couldn't find it. oh you :kiss: *fingers* Z_B_Z said: so..... terrence mckenna he was into his patterns and shite Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 and his 'elves' Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm actually the singularity. I hope you've been enjoying the show so far. More to come. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 you seem like an amiable singularity Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) i think its kind of dumb to think that an omnipotent intelligence couldn't live peacefully with us. violence is the antithesis of intelligence edit: also lol @ theo Edited January 11, 2009 by 42Orange Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Siegecow's signature Hide all signatures On 3/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, troon said: fuck off! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spraaaa Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 yeah, I kinda agree with that... I like this criticism on wikipedia Quote A recent study of patents per thousand persons shows that human creativity does not show accelerating returns, but in fact – as suggested by Joseph Tainter in his seminal The Collapse of Complex Societies[5] – a law of diminishing returns.[citation needed] The number of patents per thousand peaked in the period from 1850–1900, and has been declining since.[citation needed] The growth of complexity eventually becomes self-limiting, and leads to a wide spread "general systems collapse". this is already true in the way that humans are already very specialized and not capable of everything. some people can make nuclear bombs, others can make food, the internet connects them all but doesn't make anything more amazing than youtube. we need a hive-mind or an ai or some way to process all the things that are happening at once. without that humans are just getting better tools but not changing the ways we use them. so maybe it's more connections than intelligence.... the collapse comes from complexity in which intentions and processes and resources don't connect to each other in a useful way. *stops rambling to read about slhc* Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 could the extra intelligence i gain via caffeine use be considered artificial intelligence?? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 spraaaa said: yeah, I kinda agree with that... I like this criticism on wikipedia Quote A recent study of patents per thousand persons shows that human creativity does not show accelerating returns, but in fact – as suggested by Joseph Tainter in his seminal The Collapse of Complex Societies[5] – a law of diminishing returns.[citation needed] The number of patents per thousand peaked in the period from 1850–1900, and has been declining since.[citation needed] The growth of complexity eventually becomes self-limiting, and leads to a wide spread "general systems collapse". what BS, patents went down because you need to spend a few $k on lawyers to get a patent. also, did you ever consider that the domain PATENT might not be infinite?? not everything can be patented; just because the patent slots are running out doesn't mean shit for anything else LOGIC WHERE ARE YOU Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I just watched Benjamin Button and I've decided going backwards is the thing to do. If you need me I'll be heading towards 1980. Adios. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 i have decided i am lord klu and you are all my subject figs Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 hahathhat said: could the extra intelligence i gain via caffeine use be considered artificial intelligence?? whatever you gained through caffeine use was already there Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Z_B_Z said: hahathhat said: could the extra intelligence i gain via caffeine use be considered artificial intelligence?? whatever you gained through caffeine use was already there OK, what about horoscopes? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 i dont know. im an aries tho Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41539-technological-singularity/page/2/#findComment-919756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts