Why Are Thin People Not Fat?

Having been both rather overweight (307 lbs at 6' 8") and rather thin (205 lbs at 6' 8'') I've run the gamut. My metabolism seems to be very susceptible to either a poor diet and little exercise or a healthy diet and regular exercise. On one end once I'm in good shape then I seem to be able to eat more freely and it doesn't effect my weight much, and on the other once I have just let myself go then every soda and desert seems to add more to the overage.

My question to most people is: why do overweight and obese people offend you so much? Okay so you don't find them attractive, that is fine, but why feel the need to point them out especially?

i'm kind of watching this. some of it interesting...

a test showed skinny kids preferring to draw and play rather than stuff their face with a feast of chocolate and cakes, while the chubby kids hardly stopped for breath.

skinny can be part of our genetic make-up, body memory, metabolism etc... but they reckon many skinny people fidget more or walk quicker and burn off more calories.

  patternoverlap said:

My question to most people is: why do overweight and obese people offend you so much? Okay so you don't find them attractive, that is fine, but why feel the need to point them out especially?

they don't offend so much as amaze/intrigue me. an anorexic person or man with 2 heads would fascinate me equally... my gaze would linger on a guy with 1 leg cos i'm interested to see how he copes with his disability.

the human body has a limit of capability with regard to the amount of weight and bulk it can manage. when i see someone pushing these boundaries i feel sad for them but can't help stare in amazement at what a body can become.

that girl a couple of posts previous is prime example. i find myself staring at her many stomachs imagining how much of a burden that must be to even put some shoes on.

if i'm in a fast food place and see a morbidly obese person waddle over sweating, grunting, breathless with their thighs chafing carrying 5 large burger meals and a gallon of milkshake, struggle into a booth designed for 4 people to inhale the food in an ecstatic frenzy with their eyes rolled back... i can't help but get a little judgemental you know. i'm sorry this may not be right but i'm human.

I hate the "I'm fat, so deal with it" mentality. Incredibly obese people didn't exist 200 years ago when everyone had to catch, grow, and cook their own food. Plus you had to walk everywhere.

Being morbidly obese isn't natural, so don't treat it like it is.

This doesn't occur in the wild:

there was a documentary on here recently called half ton son (from america).

the guy got drastic surgery to remove 20 stone from his midriff in one lump and reduce his stomach to the size of a banana. he checked himself out of hospital early and asked his mum for some sausages.

accentuated parts to represent fertility

Yep. And all of art up until Roman times was idealistic.

Plus she's hot.

ive been whats classed as super morbidly obese, about 2 years ago i was cracking on for nearly 40st, im 6ft 4. i can safely say it was all my own fault preceded by drug abuse, depression and also an obsessive disorder but still, i was the one putting it into my body and i fully accept that.

there are mental factors to be taken into consideration here, food can become an addiction just like anything else but its also unlike any other addiction because you also need it to survive, tell a heroin addict to go straight but that he has to have just enough h every day of his life but no more than said amount, think he could do it without abusing it? nah.

try and catch a repeat of this documentary kaen.

it's actually is more like a physical addiction than a mental one.

she needs to trade that xbox for a Wii

edit: that fat girl (i thought she was in the last post... but i was on page 2)

  tauboo said:

try and catch a repeat of this documentary kaen.

 

it's actually is more like a physical addiction than a mental one.

i need to, ill see if i can torrent it from somewhere

well yeah its that too, i wouldn't say more tho, don't really care what the experts say, ive been there. its complicated as fuck at any rate.

BBC iPlayer. Just watched it, assuming I had the right show in mind as I think I've seen a couple of similar ideas advertised recently. As a skinny person I've learnt nothing, whatever.

everything in moderation. I have wieghed the same for 20 years. 6" ft at 185 to 190. Not skinny. Not fat. I habe a litte gut. I have musacle. Id like to loose 15 pounds, but I am what I am. Always have been

  kaen said:

ive been whats classed as super morbidly obese, about 2 years ago i was cracking on for nearly 40st, im 6ft 4. i can safely say it was all my own fault preceded by drug abuse, depression and also an obsessive disorder but still, i was the one putting it into my body and i fully accept that.

 

there are mental factors to be taken into consideration here, food can become an addiction just like anything else but its also unlike any other addiction because you also need it to survive, tell a heroin addict to go straight but that he has to have just enough h every day of his life but no more than said amount, think he could do it without abusing it? nah.

Please tell me about your obsessive disorder.

horizon?

yea it wasn't great. couple of interesting things tho.

like the Asian dude who (once again because of some gene apparently) gained more muscle from overeating (and not exercising) than fat. didn't know that was possible.

  Braintree said:

Incredibly obese people didn't exist 200 years ago when everyone had to catch, grow, and cook their own food. Plus you had to walk everywhere.

 

Being morbidly obese isn't natural, so don't treat it like it is.

 

This doesn't occur in the wild:

Do you have some way of proving that? We were starting to become pretty industrialized in the 1800s. Human beings have pushed the boundaries of their bodies since time began (tattoos, piercings, more recently plastic surgery, performance enhancing drugs, etc). None of these things are "natural." They are man being discontent with what they are given and modifying it to suit them.

Look, I'm not saying that there isn't a rise in obesity (though, I believe the BMI that is used for these stats is an extremely flawed system). All I'm saying is that everyone has their problems. It just so happens that overweight and obese people wear their problems on the outside (whether those problems are physical, mental, or emotional). I don't think singling them out like they are a plague is doing them any good.

Edit: I went to one of those BMI calculator sites to see what I am classified as. Apparently I am classified as obese, though I clearly am not.

  patternoverlap said:

  Braintree said:

Incredibly obese people didn't exist 200 years ago when everyone had to catch, grow, and cook their own food. Plus you had to walk everywhere.

 

Being morbidly obese isn't natural, so don't treat it like it is.

 

This doesn't occur in the wild:

 

Do you have some way of proving that? We were starting to become pretty industrialized in the 1800s. Human beings have pushed the boundaries of their bodies since time began (tattoos, piercings, more recently plastic surgery, performance enhancing drugs, etc). None of these things are "natural." They are man being discontent with what they are given and modifying it to suit them.

 

Look, I'm not saying that there isn't a rise in obesity (though, I believe the BMI that is used for these stats is an extremely flawed system). All I'm saying is that everyone has their problems. It just so happens that overweight and obese people wear their problems on the outside (whether those problems are physical, mental, or emotional). I don't think singling them out like they are a plague is doing them any good.

 

Edit: I went to one of those BMI calculator sites to see what I am classified as. Apparently I am classified as obese, though I clearly am not.

Tattoos and piercings don't bother me whether they're natural or not. They are not an improvement of our body, but a decoration; an adornment. Obesity is not an improvement. It leads to disease and early death.

Some people have a thyroid problem, and some people just eat too fucking much. Most people that are fat have poor nutrition and don't get enough exercise. A lot of the people that eat too fucking much claim they have just as much as a problem with the people who have ACTUAL medical problems. Which they don't. They can get out of their house and exercise and eat better meals. I used to be overweight. I was 230lbs and 5'11''. But you know what? I realized what I was doing to myself so I cut out candy, started eating smaller, healthier meals, and road my bike to school instead of taking the bus. Now I weigh 175-80lbs [it fluctuates] after about a year and a half or so. I understand the BMI doesn't take into account all factors. It said I was bordering on obese even though I didn't look it [i have a lot of muscle mass]. I was chubby, but not huge. My point is that if you're really dedicated to getting healthy, you can be, and a lot of people are just too plain ass fucking lazy to do it.

Now for the historical portion: our concept of beauty has changed over time. During the renaissance, there are many depictions of pale, full figured women, sometimes even fat women, because it was regarded as beautiful at the time. A very small percentage of commoners looked like that. To be tan and thin meant you worked in the field. To be a worker was lowly, and paleness regarded as beautiful as most of the nobility were pale [because they didn't work]. Pale + Fat = Wealth, which in turn means prosperity. Nowadays we associate paleness and fatness with unhealthiness because food and shade are so attainable.

I think my main point is that there have been big people ever since our inception. A full figured woman is not necessarily a fat woman. A big guy is not necessarily a fat guy. Obese people, however, are a product of our time and culture. I think anyone on the street would be able to tell the difference between a guy that is just plain big and a guy this is obese. I've lived all over the US, and the areas with the thinnest people are major cities with public transportation. Areas where people drive everywhere typically have larger amounts of obese people, because they're cutting out a lot of exercise.

My metabolism keeps me thin. I also workout and don't consume over 2000 calories a day.

i havent read most of this thread, but has the question been answered?

  Braintree said:

  patternoverlap said:

  Braintree said:

Incredibly obese people didn't exist 200 years ago when everyone had to catch, grow, and cook their own food. Plus you had to walk everywhere.

 

Being morbidly obese isn't natural, so don't treat it like it is.

 

This doesn't occur in the wild:

 

Do you have some way of proving that? We were starting to become pretty industrialized in the 1800s. Human beings have pushed the boundaries of their bodies since time began (tattoos, piercings, more recently plastic surgery, performance enhancing drugs, etc). None of these things are "natural." They are man being discontent with what they are given and modifying it to suit them.

 

Look, I'm not saying that there isn't a rise in obesity (though, I believe the BMI that is used for these stats is an extremely flawed system). All I'm saying is that everyone has their problems. It just so happens that overweight and obese people wear their problems on the outside (whether those problems are physical, mental, or emotional). I don't think singling them out like they are a plague is doing them any good.

 

Edit: I went to one of those BMI calculator sites to see what I am classified as. Apparently I am classified as obese, though I clearly am not.

 

Tattoos and piercings don't bother me whether they're natural or not. They are not an improvement of our body, but a decoration; an adornment. Obesity is not an improvement. It leads to disease and early death.

 

Some people have a thyroid problem, and some people just eat too fucking much. Most people that are fat have poor nutrition and don't get enough exercise. A lot of the people that eat too fucking much claim they have just as much as a problem with the people who have ACTUAL medical problems. Which they don't. They can get out of their house and exercise and eat better meals. I used to be overweight. I was 230lbs and 5'11''. But you know what? I realized what I was doing to myself so I cut out candy, started eating smaller, healthier meals, and road my bike to school instead of taking the bus. Now I weigh 175-80lbs [it fluctuates] after about a year and a half or so. I understand the BMI doesn't take into account all factors. It said I was bordering on obese even though I didn't look it [i have a lot of muscle mass]. I was chubby, but not huge. My point is that if you're really dedicated to getting healthy, you can be, and a lot of people are just too plain ass fucking lazy to do it.

 

Now for the historical portion: our concept of beauty has changed over time. During the renaissance, there are many depictions of pale, full figured women, sometimes even fat women, because it was regarded as beautiful at the time. A very small percentage of commoners looked like that. To be tan and thin meant you worked in the field. To be a worker was lowly, and paleness regarded as beautiful as most of the nobility were pale [because they didn't work]. Pale + Fat = Wealth, which in turn means prosperity. Nowadays we associate paleness and fatness with unhealthiness because food and shade are so attainable.

 

I think my main point is that there have been big people ever since our inception. A full figured woman is not necessarily a fat woman. A big guy is not necessarily a fat guy. Obese people, however, are a product of our time and culture. I think anyone on the street would be able to tell the difference between a guy that is just plain big and a guy this is obese. I've lived all over the US, and the areas with the thinnest people are major cities with public transportation. Areas where people drive everywhere typically have larger amounts of obese people, because they're cutting out a lot of exercise.

i've put on some weight over the last year and a half. i really want to drop it, and i've started with a heathy diet change but i need to do something more physical and i think riding my bike is perfect. i walk plenty but i need more. i'm not looking to drop nearly as much weight as you did.

the thread is about a documentary

  essines said:

my big problem is that when i ride my bike to school i get sweaty. how'd you deal with that?

i've put on some weight over the last year and a half. i really want to drop it, and i've started with a heathy diet change but i need to do something more physical and i think riding my bike is perfect. i walk plenty but i need more. i'm not looking to drop nearly as much weight as you did.

Well, the more I rode, the less I would sweat. I think my body got more used to it, but there's not much you can do except take a minute and cool off.

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Tauboo.

  Braintree said:

  essines said:

my big problem is that when i ride my bike to school i get sweaty. how'd you deal with that?

i've put on some weight over the last year and a half. i really want to drop it, and i've started with a heathy diet change but i need to do something more physical and i think riding my bike is perfect. i walk plenty but i need more. i'm not looking to drop nearly as much weight as you did.

 

Well, the more I rode, the less I would sweat. I think my body got more used to it, but there's not much you can do except take a minute and cool off.

 

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Tauboo.

Also, drink less booze.

  Braintree said:

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Tauboo.

no problem. i was replying to Z_B_Z.