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Ah it's just cause there are a lot of Lesnar nuthuggers, and I was thinking about Fedor.

Your analysis of the other thing was pretty spot on as well.

COE: NOg/Silva/Jackson all became champions in theri respective weight classes. None of the lighter weight class champions moved over to the UFC, because really, would americans stand for their champions getting their asses worked by a bunch of japanese? OK, dominated was an exaggeration...but still the PRIDE fighters have done very well, considering how few of them were champions when they moved over to UFC...

Yeah, but for every great Pride import there's been some big flops when they've hit the states. Cro Cop, Sokoudjou, Shogun (at least in his first two fights), Ninja, Wanderlei, Kang, Gomi, Galvao etc.

I won't say Nog because he had staph against Mir, and the finish against Tim Sylvia was amazing.

i always feel uncomfortable watching this, it's a very slight step away from porn. the worst is when i'm around frat guys and they have it on... what am i supposed to say, like, "wow, i wish i could vice grip a man's head into my crotch that way?"

  Adjective said:

(the baka survivor)

he must be crazy in bed.

FEDOR WOULD DESTROY ANYONE

HE IS BOSS MAN

Supposedly Anderson Silva is fighting Griffin in UFC 101. Wasn't expecting that, i was hoping for a GSP v Silva fight soon but looks like that is going to have to wait. Still, i think this could be a good match.

Also adjective, don't know whether you knew about this, i didn't...

  Quote

Although he'll first meet lightweight Shinya Aoki in a special exhibition match at Wednesday's M-1 Challenge event, famed heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko could next strap up for an MMA fight this summer.

 

During a press conference today in Japan, Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, said negotiations are underway for the fighter to meet a "top 10" heavyweight in July or August.

 

Finkelchtein believes the fight will take place in Japan.

 

Emelianenko most recently fought in January and defeated Andrei Arlovski via TKO at Affliction's "Day of Reckoning" card. Emelianenko was expected to headline the organization's next event sometime this summer.

 

However, according to FiveOuncesofPain.com's Sam Caplan (who's in Japan this week), Affliction could look to partner with M-1 and DREAM to host a summer event in Japan instead of hosting its next show in the U.S.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/14714/fedor-emel...nt-in-japan.mma

To argue about who throws the the best punches in MMA is a waste of time. For the most part they are horrible punchers... their defense against punches are even worse, I remember seeing a dude run across the ring and land an uppercut lead.

  Velazquez said:

To argue about who throws the the best punches in MMA is a waste of time. For the most part they are horrible punchers... their defense against punches are even worse, I remember seeing a dude run across the ring and land an uppercut lead.

while most fighters aren't great technical boxers, your statement is a bit of a stretch. there are plenty of skilled punchers in MMA. anderson silva throws really clean punches, rampage is pretty much a boxer, arlovski is a great boxer (he's now strictly a boxer apparently) with amazing knock out power...probably tons more that i'm forgetting at the moment. not everybody is an orthodox puncher, but it doesn't mean they are horrible. people say wanderlei silva isn't a very good boxer, but how many people has he knocked out with his unconventional angles?

people that are into boxing generally think MMA fighters aren't good boxers, but that's bullshit. boxing is a very different sport and there are many things that MMA fighters have to think about that boxers don't that effect the way they fight more than boxers realize. there are things you just can't do in MMA that you could easily get away with in a boxing match because of the difference in rules. boxers don't have to worry about kicks, they don't have to worry about takedowns, they don't have to worry about getting in a clinch, they don't have to worry about someone grabbing their arm and pulling a submission out of nowhere...it's very different. take the best boxers of all time and stick them in an MMA bout and i guarantee they won't last 30 seconds.

  Rambo said:

Supposedly Anderson Silva is fighting Griffin in UFC 101. Wasn't expecting that, i was hoping for a GSP v Silva fight soon but looks like that is going to have to wait. Still, i think this could be a good match.

it'll be entertaining, but i don't really see forrest being able to do much against silva. forrest is just a decent fighter whereas anderson is an amazing fighter. and the biggest problem for forrest is something he can't really do anything to fix and that's focus. imo, one of the things that makes silva such a great fighter is his focus. when he attacks someone, he keeps his eyes completely focused on that strike, watches the person's face, follows their movements, etc. he never loses his focus. forrest just isn't that kind of fighter. when he throws a punch, it looks as if for that moment he's not really thinking about anything. it's like he stops paying attention halfway through. sometimes he even closes his eyes when striking. it's not really something you can train to overcome, i don't think. he might be able to land a few surprising leg kicks, but i don't see him being able to really do much damage.

do we know what weight they'll be meeting at for this fight? is forrest cutting down to middleweight or is silva going back up to light heavyweight? silva came in under 185 for the leites fight, so i kinda assumed that meant he was preparing to cut even further to meet GSP at welterweight.

that's still the fight i'd like to see most. GSP actually has a great chance against silva. his strengths are silva's weaknesses. GSP is a powerful wrestler and silva has shown a weakness in wrestling against both hendo and luter. he's also great on his feet and very quick. i think he'd give silva the best run for his money out of anybody in the UFC i can think of. i mean, i'd love to see jon jones vs anderson silva, but that's a little premature at this point. ;)

Silva is going up, which you'd think wouldn't help the cause for a GSP fight soon!

Ditto on the JJ v AS fight. Let's hope Silva doesn't get bored any time soon.

  onecaseman said:

Yeah, but for every great Pride import there's been some big flops when they've hit the states. Cro Cop, Sokoudjou, Shogun (at least in his first two fights), Ninja, Wanderlei, Kang, Gomi, Galvao etc.

 

I won't say Nog because he had staph against Mir, and the finish against Tim Sylvia was amazing.

What about the other way round? UFC fighters didn't do so hot going over to PRIDE...

CRoCop and Wanderlei, man I don't even want to think about them...fucking wtf. Wait which Kang are you talking about? Denis Kang? I think he's 1-1 in UFC...Ninja never fought in UFC...and tbh I always thought ninja was kind of overrated...

also MMA fighters are not great boxers precisely because they have so much else to think about.

Arlovski hasn't had a bout yet, and he'll do OK against some of the tomato cans he'll face first, but he'll get knocked silly by some of the upper level fighters.

  Rambo said:

Also adjective, don't know whether you knew about this, i didn't...

 

  Quote

Although he'll first meet lightweight Shinya Aoki in a special exhibition match at Wednesday's M-1 Challenge event, famed heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko could next strap up for an MMA fight this summer.

 

During a press conference today in Japan, Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, said negotiations are underway for the fighter to meet a "top 10" heavyweight in July or August.

 

Finkelchtein believes the fight will take place in Japan.

 

Emelianenko most recently fought in January and defeated Andrei Arlovski via TKO at Affliction's "Day of Reckoning" card. Emelianenko was expected to headline the organization's next event sometime this summer.

 

However, according to FiveOuncesofPain.com's Sam Caplan (who's in Japan this week), Affliction could look to partner with M-1 and DREAM to host a summer event in Japan instead of hosting its next show in the U.S.

 

http://mmajunkie.com/news/14714/fedor-emel...nt-in-japan.mma

i heard about the exhibition, i'm waiting to watch it though. i was under the impression that it was going to air in HD on HDnet. i really hope fedor fights Overeem

that strikeforce event was pretty boring for the most part. but i was really impressed with the female fighters. they really need to have a larger pool of females because they're seriously badass. sarah kaufman really impressed me. she was smiling like a fucking goof right up until the ref called fight and then literally she turned into a female version of anderson silva (minus the kicks). it was crazy. miesha tate couldn't do a whole lot, but she took a serious beating and kept going. she looked seriously bashed up at the end of that fight, but she did her thing (or tried to) through it all. and damn...her ass is pretty nice, i must say. especially in HD. you could just see it jiggle. now i understand why my girl is so fascinated by frank mir's "badonkadonk", as she says. can't really take your eyes off it.

  catsonearth said:

  Velazquez said:

To argue about who throws the the best punches in MMA is a waste of time. For the most part they are horrible punchers... their defense against punches are even worse, I remember seeing a dude run across the ring and land an uppercut lead.

 

while most fighters aren't great technical boxers, your statement is a bit of a stretch. there are plenty of skilled punchers in MMA. anderson silva throws really clean punches, rampage is pretty much a boxer, arlovski is a great boxer (he's now strictly a boxer apparently) with amazing knock out power...probably tons more that i'm forgetting at the moment. not everybody is an orthodox puncher, but it doesn't mean they are horrible. people say wanderlei silva isn't a very good boxer, but how many people has he knocked out with his unconventional angles?

 

people that are into boxing generally think MMA fighters aren't good boxers, but that's bullshit. boxing is a very different sport and there are many things that MMA fighters have to think about that boxers don't that effect the way they fight more than boxers realize. there are things you just can't do in MMA that you could easily get away with in a boxing match because of the difference in rules. boxers don't have to worry about kicks, they don't have to worry about takedowns, they don't have to worry about getting in a clinch, they don't have to worry about someone grabbing their arm and pulling a submission out of nowhere...it's very different. take the best boxers of all time and stick them in an MMA bout and i guarantee they won't last 30 seconds.

And vice versa a mma fighter couldn't last a round in a boxing match.

I will watch this weekend, as a big fan of the sweet science I will continue to be suprised at the punches that land.

  catsonearth said:

  Rambo said:

Supposedly Anderson Silva is fighting Griffin in UFC 101. Wasn't expecting that, i was hoping for a GSP v Silva fight soon but looks like that is going to have to wait. Still, i think this could be a good match.

 

it'll be entertaining, but i don't really see forrest being able to do much against silva. forrest is just a decent fighter whereas anderson is an amazing fighter. and the biggest problem for forrest is something he can't really do anything to fix and that's focus. imo, one of the things that makes silva such a great fighter is his focus. when he attacks someone, he keeps his eyes completely focused on that strike, watches the person's face, follows their movements, etc. he never loses his focus. forrest just isn't that kind of fighter. when he throws a punch, it looks as if for that moment he's not really thinking about anything. it's like he stops paying attention halfway through. sometimes he even closes his eyes when striking. it's not really something you can train to overcome, i don't think. he might be able to land a few surprising leg kicks, but i don't see him being able to really do much damage.

 

do we know what weight they'll be meeting at for this fight? is forrest cutting down to middleweight or is silva going back up to light heavyweight? silva came in under 185 for the leites fight, so i kinda assumed that meant he was preparing to cut even further to meet GSP at welterweight.

 

that's still the fight i'd like to see most. GSP actually has a great chance against silva. his strengths are silva's weaknesses. GSP is a powerful wrestler and silva has shown a weakness in wrestling against both hendo and luter. he's also great on his feet and very quick. i think he'd give silva the best run for his money out of anybody in the UFC i can think of. i mean, i'd love to see jon jones vs anderson silva, but that's a little premature at this point. ;)

I think they just chose Griffin because they knew there would be a lot of action and it won't look like Silva's last fight. I don't think that was Silva's fault, but you have to keep the drunk douchebags entertained.

  takeshi said:

  catsonearth said:

  Rambo said:

Supposedly Anderson Silva is fighting Griffin in UFC 101. Wasn't expecting that, i was hoping for a GSP v Silva fight soon but looks like that is going to have to wait. Still, i think this could be a good match.

 

it'll be entertaining, but i don't really see forrest being able to do much against silva. forrest is just a decent fighter whereas anderson is an amazing fighter. and the biggest problem for forrest is something he can't really do anything to fix and that's focus. imo, one of the things that makes silva such a great fighter is his focus. when he attacks someone, he keeps his eyes completely focused on that strike, watches the person's face, follows their movements, etc. he never loses his focus. forrest just isn't that kind of fighter. when he throws a punch, it looks as if for that moment he's not really thinking about anything. it's like he stops paying attention halfway through. sometimes he even closes his eyes when striking. it's not really something you can train to overcome, i don't think. he might be able to land a few surprising leg kicks, but i don't see him being able to really do much damage.

 

do we know what weight they'll be meeting at for this fight? is forrest cutting down to middleweight or is silva going back up to light heavyweight? silva came in under 185 for the leites fight, so i kinda assumed that meant he was preparing to cut even further to meet GSP at welterweight.

 

that's still the fight i'd like to see most. GSP actually has a great chance against silva. his strengths are silva's weaknesses. GSP is a powerful wrestler and silva has shown a weakness in wrestling against both hendo and luter. he's also great on his feet and very quick. i think he'd give silva the best run for his money out of anybody in the UFC i can think of. i mean, i'd love to see jon jones vs anderson silva, but that's a little premature at this point. ;)

 

I think they just chose Griffin because they knew there would be a lot of action and it won't look like Silva's last fight. I don't think that was Silva's fault, but you have to keep the drunk douchebags entertained.

the drunk douchebags have really been out of control lately. every new fight i watch it just gets worse and worse. the silva fight, the strikeforce fight, the mfc fight from the other night...literally as soon as someone gets in the clinch people start flipping out and booing. it's annoying as hell for someone who appreciates fighting, not just action. granted, not every fight can be a blockbuster, but to me that's not really what it's about. it's a mental game and when people are booing fighters it makes it a lot harder to appreciate the strategy.

i'd say kick them all out, but then there'd probably be no crowd. i really wish i could make 90% of MMA fans just disappear from the face of the earth though. they're an embarrassment. i think a lot more people would be into MMA if the crowds didn't give it such a bad stigma. for a long time i assumed MMA was wack simply based on the people who i knew that liked it and the way it's advertised. it cheapens the potential a lot, i think.

DREAM 9 - featherweight tourny / super hulk tourny and a middleweight title fight, some more stuff..

on now HDNET live(?)

abel cullum vs. hideo tokoro is pretty awesome

Emelianenko has got to be my favourite fighter of all time, people accuse him of ducking fights with top UFC people, but i believe he holds a 7-0 record with past heavyweight title holders in the UFC

shame that dana can't negotiate with him to get him into the ufc, as fedor wants to do sambo in russia at the same time

gegard mousasi killed it

corano's covergirl career saved by questionable inevitable abomidable Dr. Stoppage and his mystical punch quickness assessing crystal stolen from planet Marvel in the Miragliotta Cluster

frank shamrock continues symbolic braces strike

loved mousasi

can tell he trains with fedor in the way he walks around all calm and shit

5 good fighters; fedor, st pee air, penn, jackson, anthony johnson, the fat guy with tattoos

on HDNet there's a card going down now. fedor will fight mousasi as some sort of exhibition (not for serious)

daisuke nakamura will be on the card i think, he's a great grappler

http://www.youtube.c...=1&feature=fvwp

don't know whats you opinion on this but fedor is as good as Gsj or even a little bit better

whats youre opinion on this guise ?

i saw a good fight featuring the fat guy with tattoos !

that card sucked dick