autotune

does anyone use it? i guess it's a vst eh... can it be used on things other than vocals? anyone use it smartly like on synth sounds and shit?

Yeah you can use it on other stuff. Theres a dumbed down free autotuning device that is a ton of fun to use. I think it is called Gsnap

ok cool. i'll check it out.

please don't use autotune on vocals unless

A) you have no soul

B) you are making it as a parody of bad pop music

and no it does not work very good on anything besides Vocals, Antares makes another program actually that sounds great for that called Harmony Engine, for some reason it did terribly in sales and has not been marketed like Autotune has but imo its a very usable plugin inc omparison

  Awepittance said:

please don't use autotune on vocals unless

 

A) you have no soul

 

B) you are making it as a parody of bad pop music

i think it has been used to good effect on a few occasions, mostly the last couple of skinny puppy albums (i know you disagree) and jesu's albums.

  modey said:

i think it has been used to good effect on a few occasions, mostly the last couple of skinny puppy albums

this is true.

  modey said:

  Awepittance said:

please don't use autotune on vocals unless

 

A) you have no soul

 

B) you are making it as a parody of bad pop music

i think it has been used to good effect on a few occasions, mostly the last couple of skinny puppy albums (i know you disagree) and jesu's albums.

i just personally feel its a bad effect across the board, and to be honest ive never heard the skinny puppy songs in question, they used autotune wtf?

s'alright when it's used properly, when it's abused like it is in 99% of today's pop songs it's horrendous...

there's an instrument setting that works for periodically repeating sound waves, so it'll work on say a guitar that's playing one note but not on a chord. i've used it a few times during badly played solos by 16 year olds.

hi by the way.

i used autotune on a few really old tracks, before it got really popular recently. it's a cool effect, but it really has been killed by the fact that it's overused on every other pop song in rotation right now. it's gonna be another 5-10 years before it can really be used again effectively at this point. either that or it's just going to become the standard for any vocal track in pop music from this point forward, like throwing a little reverb on there, it will just be the thing to do. i dunno. i hope not because i'd love to experiment with it some more, but right now it just makes me feel dirty.

here's a track i used it on that's 9+ years old now. that just shows you right there how played out the shit is.

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the above is the end all plugin for anybody wanting to real-time 'tune' an instrument,

unlike autotune it doesnt automatically tune it for you, you have to make a midi pattern of what you want it to be tuned to.

re:cats on earth the autotune in your its buried enough so that i don't mind it. cool song too.

i don't mind it when it's used like this, just so much music i hear these days features it heavily on the main vocal (usually the loudest part of the track)

Did Aphex Twin use it on Windowlicker?

  scones to die for said:

Did Aphex Twin use it on Windowlicker?

i always wondered what he used on windowlicker and the song 'funny little man' on Come to Daddy which has autotune like effects stair stepping on the voice. I believe he could be using an Eventide harmonizer like an Orville or Eclipse which actually invented the autotuning effect previously to Antares the company.

'funny little man' is the first song i ever heard eve before that Cher track with an autotune-like effect on a vocal

i think celemony melodyne is much better, especially because of the chord function

i once used it to tune a piece of nondescript vocals and add another line of the same vocals, tuned to different notes.. was very idm

  chimera slot mom said:

i think celemony melodyne is much better, especially because of the chord function

 

i once used it to tune a piece of nondescript vocals and add another line of the same vocals, tuned to different notes.. was very idm

whats the chord function do exactly? i dont think i've used it

Melodyne trumps autotune for sure, but its a little frustrating to use in realtime because its only really giving you the 'graphical mode' of autotune not the automatic mode, unfortunately Melodyne is so complex it doesnt really have an instant tuning mode you can just throw on a channel (like autotune). Which is why so many R&B and rap lackeys still stand by autotune, its just easy as shit to use and gives them an instantaneous Kanye West hardon

there's a graphical editor in autotune that lets you program the pitchshift, basically taking the 'auto' out of it.

has anyone ever seen or used antares throat? let's you alter someones fucking vocal tract...

cool track cats.

  Awepittance said:

  chimera slot mom said:

i think celemony melodyne is much better, especially because of the chord function

 

i once used it to tune a piece of nondescript vocals and add another line of the same vocals, tuned to different notes.. was very idm

 

whats the chord function do exactly? i dont think i've used it

it recognizes chords and lets you alter individual notes.. assuming you haven't buffer overridden the chord audio to hell

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Melodyne trumps autotune for sure, but its a little frustrating to use in realtime because its only really giving you the 'graphical mode' of autotune not the automatic mode, unfortunately Melodyne is so complex it doesnt really have an instant tuning mode you can just throw on a channel (like autotune). Which is why so many R&B and rap lackeys still stand by autotune, its just easy as shit to use and gives them an instantaneous Kanye West hardon

That is exactly why I think Melodyne deserves more recognition here. Alot of the saner producers I've talked to prefer it much more.

  Awepittance said:

 

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the above is the end all plugin for anybody wanting to real-time 'tune' an instrument,

unlike autotune it doesnt automatically tune it for you, you have to make a midi pattern of what you want it to be tuned to.

awesome. i'm gonna have to get that. one of my biggest pet peeves is when i'm trying to match synth notes to a sample that has an off tuning where it somehow falls between pitches and no matter what notes you play it just sounds like crap. does it have an audible effect on the instrument like autotune? could be cool either way.

  Awepittance said:

re:cats on earth the autotune in your its buried enough so that i don't mind it. cool song too.

i don't mind it when it's used like this, just so much music i hear these days features it heavily on the main vocal (usually the loudest part of the track)

yea, i feel ya. i like it used as an effect just like any other effect - to add to the feel, not be the main focus. overusing autotune is kinda like overusing a flanger or buffer override. there's a time and a place for it, but it's just too noticeable of an effect to go plastering around everywhere. it shows it's seams, so to speak. not to mention the fact that people are just using it in the same way over and over again to achieve the exact same sound.

  onehandbandit said:

there's a graphical editor in autotune that lets you program the pitchshift, basically taking the 'auto' out of it.

 

has anyone ever seen or used antares throat? let's you alter someones fucking vocal tract...

 

cool track cats.

yes that program is great for gender bending, i helped test it and sadly they never fixed anything past the Alpha version. Had so much potential to be a really powerful high quality plugin but like usual the programmer was lazy and adament about the original algorithm being 'perfect' and any new fixes we suggested he wanted to 'save for the paid upgrade'

  chimera slot mom said:

  Awepittance said:

  chimera slot mom said:

i think celemony melodyne is much better, especially because of the chord function

 

i once used it to tune a piece of nondescript vocals and add another line of the same vocals, tuned to different notes.. was very idm

 

whats the chord function do exactly? i dont think i've used it

 

it recognizes chords and lets you alter individual notes.. assuming you haven't buffer overridden the chord audio to hell

 

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Melodyne trumps autotune for sure, but its a little frustrating to use in realtime because its only really giving you the 'graphical mode' of autotune not the automatic mode, unfortunately Melodyne is so complex it doesnt really have an instant tuning mode you can just throw on a channel (like autotune). Which is why so many R&B and rap lackeys still stand by autotune, its just easy as shit to use and gives them an instantaneous Kanye West hardon

 

That is exactly why I think Melodyne deserves more recognition here. Alot of the saner producers I've talked to prefer it much more.

i have to ask are you on the Direct Note Access beta team? because as of right now direct note access is not available to the public (the only way i know of to alter individual notes in a chord)

  catsonearth said:

yea, i feel ya. i like it used as an effect just like any other effect - to add to the feel, not be the main focus. overusing autotune is kinda like overusing a flanger or buffer override. there's a time and a place for it, but it's just too noticeable of an effect to go plastering around everywhere.

yes exactly, i think i was a little too hard on the idea of using it at all. Every effect has a time and a place and can be used tastefully

about the 'pet peeve' you speak of with Auotune, dont even get me started! i complained to the owner about this at least once every few months and he denied that it was a bug at all. i believe on the newest autotune 'Evo' they finally fixed this random pitch jump glitch, but Harmony Engine does fix that problem, when you select a midi note to tune to it stays there and does not jump or drift in any way. Although i cant say it sounds very realistic on most things, it sounds really cool and is great for coming up with interesting harmonies and retunings on the fly but yeah its got a long way to go before it doesnt sound like a digital effect

i was gonna say, there's autotune all over the burial untrue album

it's just used proper

and I've run everything from basslines to windchimes though it...it has it's sound

neat effect

the graphical editor is rad

or you can tune it via midi to produce some admittedly weird-ass sounds

does not handle 808's well though :embrassed:

is that really auto-tune on the burial tracks?

  rocky path said:

is that really auto-tune on the burial tracks?

yes,'buried' (<--lol) under lots of band pass filter reverb and delay

  rocky path said:

We went through this one a few months ago.  thanksomuch couldn't stand it, if I remember correctly.