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If RnB pop tracks didnt sound the same already, they have started plastering autotune over every vocal track for effect, making them almost exactly the same. There was 5 or 6 tracks in row on uk radio the other day, all american, all Rnb and all using autotune. Pop music is such a whore for coping its trends.

 

But i spose all music is a whore for copying its own trend but pop music loves it more than most.

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there has never been a more appropriate time for the band PWEI to make a revival, because goddam if it isnt truer now than it ever has been in the history of man kind

 

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  Awepittance said:
there has never been a more appropriate time for the band PWEI to make a revival, because goddam if it isnt truer now than it ever has been in the history of man kind

 

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outstanding

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autotune is actually fantastic when used as it was originally intended. it has saved more than a few vocal takes for me on many occasions when i wouldn't have been able to get the original performer to rerecord.

 

but of course, and arguably just like compression, AT is best used when you don't actually HEAR it at all.

 

the rampant abuse of high-speed high-strictness AT in rap and R&B, however, is really ludicrous indeed.

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  maus said:
autotune is actually fantastic when used as it was originally intended. it has saved more than a few vocal takes for me on many occasions when i wouldn't have been able to get the original performer to rerecord.

 

pressed on time and money obviously this is a great 'out' to save the session in question but i very often hear unintentionally audible autotuning effect on music it shouldn't be noticeable in.

 

Im sure you being a producer know what im talking about, there are tmes when i will hear a pop punk song in a department store and think to myself 'woah this is autotuned' but i dont think the producers wanted someone to be able to tell, but to a trained ear its very noticeable.

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  Awepittance said:
pressed on time and money obviously this is a great 'out' to save the session in question but i very often hear unintentionally audible autotuning effect on music it shouldn't be noticeable in.

 

Im sure you being a producer know what im talking about, there are tmes when i will hear a pop punk song in a department store and think to myself 'woah this is autotuned' but i dont think the producers wanted someone to be able to tell, but to a trained ear its very noticeable.

 

i hear this too. Mostly with the female singers who are more of a sex object than a singer. Brittany Spears needs it the most. Christina Agulera the least. That bitch can sing.

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  Awepittance said:
pressed on time and money obviously this is a great 'out' to save the session in question but i very often hear unintentionally audible autotuning effect on music it shouldn't be noticeable in.

 

Im sure you being a producer know what im talking about, there are tmes when i will hear a pop punk song in a department store and think to myself 'woah this is autotuned' but i dont think the producers wanted someone to be able to tell, but to a trained ear its very noticeable.

 

absolutely. again, that's poor use of autotune. it has a low threshold of audibility. listen to any britney spears a capella for a crash course in the sins of autotune.

 

but again, making people who can't sing sound good is, in my opinion, not what it's for.

 

i recently had to transition a vocal performance into a piano performance for a cue. the actress who sang the vocal part was singing a capella without a guide, and was damn near spot on pitch, but just off enough that it grated when the piano came in. we had no way to do any re-records as it was an on-camera vocal and time just doesn't permit it. autotune nudged things into place just enough, and did it imperceptibly. it was even able to preserve her natural vibrato (why they even CONSIDERED trying to 'fake' vibrato is well beyond me)

 

as a practical tool of production, particularly dealing with stuff like that, it's great.

 

again, i'm actually totally agreeing with you guys that it's overused even in LESS painfully obvious ways than that of recent R&B abuse, but beyond that, it's actually useful.

 

 

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this thread is ripe. can someone experiment and try to autotune an acid bassline? i just want to hear what that would sound like

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  yek said:
this thread is ripe. can someone experiment and try to autotune an acid bassline? i just want to hear what that would sound like

 

make one or find a relatively unresonant one for me and ill do it

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yeah maybe. i just think it will work cause of the sliding quality of aoutotune

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someone travel back in time and blow up antares HQ

ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!!

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  yek said:
can i autotune midi?

 

yes you can, but this question may be a joke(?)but ill do my best to give a serious answer

usually its just called scale quantization where you force a series of midi notes to be a certain musical scale.

Other than this i can't imagine another practical use of trying to force tune midi notes to specifc values.

 

There could be rare practical applications for using some sort of raw pitch bend data and note traditional note-pitch midi data to compose a theremin like melody or something to this effect and one could theoretically quantize/stair step the glisandos

 

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