Takeshi Miike

all these posts, several misspelt name checks : it's takashi, not takeshi.

anyway, I've seen about 50 miike films, and I think the biggest flaw is that his work encourages easy interpretation without rarely inspiring insight into the hidden depths. lots of layers in there, often an immense imagination at work too.

I like Miike. Ichi is a great film, I think people watch it too much for the gore and forget that it's actually a fucking great film otherwise. Asano is amazing in it, just plays Kakihara brilliantly I think. There's something about how it's edited too that gives it so much life. I read that he reedited the film after he was handed the soundtrack and it shows.

Audition is sweet too, I know a few people who were roped in by the 'drama' start to the film, seems like a pretty wholesome movie. Then at the end it just twisted their minds. The problem with being a director that makes some fucked up films though is that people generally tend to look at just the violence without taking the whole film into consideration. For instance when I first saw Audition I didn't know how it was going to end, so it was mind blowing.

Happiness of the Katakuri's is garbage though. Dead or Alive is good on paper but when I bought 1 and 2 I was disappointed, they trailed off extremely quick.

Gozu is a film I have to be in the mood for, but I like that.

Oh and Box! Some of his finest work right there!

I have only seen Audition and I pretty sure it was directed by him

It was allright, nothing to write home about

he's the Venetian Snares of Japanese cinema.....

  candlestickmaker said:

you guys should really see this one http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/

 

it's the only one i saw from him. i should look for more hmmm

I was told there was an american remake of this planned with Al Pacino in the lead role. It was cancelled after Pacino refused the role when he read the ending. The writter was unwilling to change it and Pacino didn't want to play an incestuos father. I was told this by my boss and he talks alot of sht so it's probably wrong.

  logboy said:

all these posts, several misspelt name checks : it's takashi, not takeshi.

 

anyway, I've seen about 50 miike films, and I think the biggest flaw is that his work encourages easy interpretation without rarely inspiring insight into the hidden depths. lots of layers in there, often an immense imagination at work too.

I'll confess I originally found Ichi for it's gore but on watching its come to grow on me. I think it reflects alot on how pain and sex are subjective though in more of an extreme manner. I've the 2 disc edition with the original manga included and I'd safely say it's more demented

miike is a master of the "genre twist" - the next step up from plot twist.

the dead or alive series are are pretty awesome example of this. you's think seeing part 1 would inform your viewing of part 2 in some way but, um, no. it almost feels like a spoiler to say that DOA2 is very slow and meditative.

visitor q is interesting if you want to see just what it takes to get a movie banned in the country that brought you animated tentacle rape

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Bijitâ Q

 

A father, who is a failed former television reporter tries to mount a documentary about violence and sex among youths. He proceeds to have sex with his daughter who is now a prostitute and films his son being humiliated and hit by classmates. "Q", a perfect stranger somehow gets involved and enter the bizzare family who's son beats his mom, who in turn is also a prostitute and a heroin addict...

:omg:

  Bad Influence said:

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Bijitâ Q

 

A father, who is a failed former television reporter tries to mount a documentary about violence and sex among youths. He proceeds to have sex with his daughter who is now a prostitute and films his son being humiliated and hit by classmates. "Q", a perfect stranger somehow gets involved and enter the bizzare family who's son beats his mom, who in turn is also a prostitute and a heroin addict...

 

:omg:

that's just the first 15 minutes

Ugh.

Only takeshi knows what's up in this thread.

  takeshi said:

For Miike check out Visitor Q, watched this again a few weeks ago and had forgotten how disturbing it is, and Fudoh.

For Kitano check out Sonatine, Kids Return, Violent Cop, A Scene at the Sea and Boiling Point.

For good Korean cinema check out anything by Chan-wook Park, Je-gyu Kang, Ki-duk Kim and Joon-ho Bong.

Add "Hana-Bi" and "Kikujiro no natsu" to the Kitano recommendations.

  chenGOD said:

  takeshi said:

For Miike check out Visitor Q, watched this again a few weeks ago and had forgotten how disturbing it is, and Fudoh.

For Kitano check out Sonatine, Kids Return, Violent Cop, A Scene at the Sea and Boiling Point.

For good Korean cinema check out anything by Chan-wook Park, Je-gyu Kang, Ki-duk Kim and Joon-ho Bong.

 

Add "Hana-Bi" and "Kikujiro no natsu" to the Kitano recommendations.

and Zatoichi plz

I saw The Happiness of the Katakuris which is much cooler in concept than in execution. Great ideas, but it felt unprofessional and underdeveloped, like a rough cut based on a draft script.

And Dead or Alive felt the same to me. Some amazing scenes, I loved the main bad guy and his brother and stuff in the fog near the beginning, that was beautiful. But the opening and ending sequences I found pretty disappointing. Everyone always says they're so mind blowing. I read the beginning was mind blowingly fast paced and violent, and it wasn't really either... it was moderately paced, and the violence wasn't anything I hadn't seen before. Cutting between that, a giant line of cocaine, and explicit shots of a stripper did make it feel a bit more intense than the usual movie intro but really... it wasn't that bad.

And then he threw in shots like those guys making animal porn and the girl drowning in her own fecal matter... that just grossed me out and seemed completely out of the blue. I don't get what the big deal is.

As far as I'm concerned, if I'm after a film that's mind blowing, surreal, and shocking, I'd rather just watch Mind Game over and over and over again. Oh yeah and Old Boy (why was Old Boy posted in a Takashi Miike thread?) is awesome and way better too. And the american version will be based on the manga which had no incest, and will likely feature Will Smith cos I think he's the producer or something.

  Yegg said:

Ugh.

 

 

Only takeshi knows what's up in this thread.

:sick:

  Yegg said:

Ugh.

 

 

Only takeshi knows what's up in this thread.

why don't you lay down your almighty wisdom then?

as far as i can see takeshi just listed a couple of films he liked.

man asian cinema brings out the film snob smugness like no other.

  Yegg said:

Ugh.

 

 

Only takeshi knows what's up in this thread.

Ugh.

Only Yegg really get its guys.

You people would never understand it.

I PITY YOU FOOLS!

i know, i now feel ashamed and disgusted at myself for making the horrific mistake of enjoying some of miike's films.

my most embarrasing movie confession is that i watched audition extremely stoned, on my own, and id heard it was like an hour of romantic characterization and then it gets really, really nasty.

i couldnt finish it, i didnt even get the nasty bit, i started getting really unpleasant pangs of fear at just how bad it was gonna be and i turned it off after an hour. the last scene i remember involved a telephone and 4 poster bed if i remember right.

Its not even that, you just don't know about it, you don't get it, you're all lost causes, its like you found out you got AIDS in its late stages and you got months, maybe weeks to live, WHO KNOWS!? But with cinema.

You're all going to die of cinema AIDS.

You also committed a big crime called interest.

  takeshi said:

Je-gyu Kang, Ki-duk Kim and Joon-ho Bong.

I will have to check these guys out, what films do you recommend?

brotherhood is an epic korean war film.

pretty moving aswell.

plus, the chick at the beginning of the movie is smokin' hot.

a tale of two sisters is a pretty good korean movie too.

thanks for all the recommendations.

I'm not a big watcher of films and I know nothing about this guy, but I did see Visitor Q a couple of years ago and loved every disgusting minute of it.

Just watch MPD Psycho, then watch a load of pink films you perverts.

Oh, or watch Kaidan

  Masquerade said:

  Yegg said:

Ugh.

 

 

Only takeshi knows what's up in this thread.

 

Ugh.

 

 

Only Yegg really get its guys.

 

You people would never understand it.

 

I PITY YOU FOOLS!

No takeshi does too.

I pity the fool who calls Miike the the "Daddy of Japanese Cinema." wtf is wrong with you motherfuckers?!

  philia said:

the bird people in china is the best.

and some of his straight up yakuza films are good as well.

philia knows whats up in this thread

truth.