If not Chris Clark than who?

whoah i agree with pubbin

recent-ish idmy idm i like more than Clark: Lusine, Bitstream, Arovane, Ilkae, Mr. 76ix, Ochre, Abfahrt Hinwil/Point 7, Nautilis, uhh

yeah, I'd have to say lemodie beats the pants off any clark release

  On 7/28/2009 at 5:23 PM, tauboo said:

recent-ish idmy idm i like more than Clark: Lusine, Bitstream, Arovane, Ilkae, Mr. 76ix, Ochre, Abfahrt Hinwil/Point 7, Nautilis, uhh

has nautilis even done anything recently?

really feeling casino versus japan lately. plus he's got a new album coming out soon. really stoked for this. but so many diverse tastes on this board, you'll never really get the answer you're looking for. haven't really been into IDM like that since rushup edge. got clark's debut EP. thought it was good, not great.

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

bogdan raczynski...duh

  On 7/28/2009 at 8:39 PM, Awepittance said:

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

I said Asmus Tietchens, if that's not good enough than;) I don't know what is. Well there is also Gunter Muller, B12, The Black Dog, all the cool avant garde stuff that is sold at Forced Exposure and MMS (Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman's webstore), Monolake is good, Hardwax records is really, really good, they sell very good electronic music, also the store DS2 (along with Hardwax) in England sells the the best techno is the world, Microsuoni is a good store, new Hecker releases are probably good, Raster-Noton is good, as well as 12k, the NHK release on Raster-Noton is really, really good. Sandwell District is a wicked techno label that puts out new stuff. A lot going on in the world.

i should listen to more wisp.

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:19 PM, narkeworld said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 8:39 PM, Awepittance said:

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

 

I said Asmus Tietchens, if that's not good enough than;) I don't know what is. Well there is also Gunter Muller, B12, The Black Dog, all the cool avant garde stuff that is sold at Forced Exposure and MMS (Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman's webstore), Monolake is good, Hardwax records is really, really good, they sell very good electronic music, also the store DS2 (along with Hardwax) in England sells the the best techno is the world, Microsuoni is a good store, new Hecker releases are probably good, Raster-Noton is good, as well as 12k, the NHK release on Raster-Noton is really, really good. Sandwell District is a wicked techno label that puts out new stuff. A lot going on in the world.

I agree with everything you said here. I've only got Gamma Menge by Asmus Tietchens, but it's really good! I need to get more by him. Also agree with Raster Noton and Monolake. I buy from MMS quite a lot as well, very good for finding avant garde weirdness...

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:43 PM, Stoppit said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:19 PM, narkeworld said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 8:39 PM, Awepittance said:

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

 

I said Asmus Tietchens, if that's not good enough than;) I don't know what is. Well there is also Gunter Muller, B12, The Black Dog, all the cool avant garde stuff that is sold at Forced Exposure and MMS (Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman's webstore), Monolake is good, Hardwax records is really, really good, they sell very good electronic music, also the store DS2 (along with Hardwax) in England sells the the best techno is the world, Microsuoni is a good store, new Hecker releases are probably good, Raster-Noton is good, as well as 12k, the NHK release on Raster-Noton is really, really good. Sandwell District is a wicked techno label that puts out new stuff. A lot going on in the world.

 

I agree with everything you said here. I've only got Gamma Menge by Asmus Tietchens, but it's really good! I need to get more by him. Also agree with Raster Noton and Monolake. I buy from MMS quite a lot as well, very good for finding avant garde weirdness...

Right on! Yeah Tietchens just put out a new one and it's available at MMS right now. I picked up the Teils Teils (I think that's what it is titled) vinyl release from Tietchens about two months ago and still haven't listened to it yet, I'm waiting for a special occasion. The Aleph-1 release by Carsten Nicolai(sp?) is very good but very repetitive but very good.:) So Stoppit what are some things that you would recommend(sp?, I hate this word and no dictionary around hehe;) from MMS? I really love Creel Pone (sold at MMS), I picked up a Hecker tape that's quite good(not a Joyrex joke) and some other things at MMS, mostly Creel Pone stuff though.

  On 7/28/2009 at 8:39 PM, Awepittance said:

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

lol, please list some smaller musicians that watmm should be talking about... if you don't like an artist because he has attention, then fine... don't enter the discussion (not really referring to this thread, but I have noticed your preaching in other threads).

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:50 PM, narkeworld said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:43 PM, Stoppit said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:19 PM, narkeworld said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 8:39 PM, Awepittance said:

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

 

I said Asmus Tietchens, if that's not good enough than;) I don't know what is. Well there is also Gunter Muller, B12, The Black Dog, all the cool avant garde stuff that is sold at Forced Exposure and MMS (Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman's webstore), Monolake is good, Hardwax records is really, really good, they sell very good electronic music, also the store DS2 (along with Hardwax) in England sells the the best techno is the world, Microsuoni is a good store, new Hecker releases are probably good, Raster-Noton is good, as well as 12k, the NHK release on Raster-Noton is really, really good. Sandwell District is a wicked techno label that puts out new stuff. A lot going on in the world.

 

I agree with everything you said here. I've only got Gamma Menge by Asmus Tietchens, but it's really good! I need to get more by him. Also agree with Raster Noton and Monolake. I buy from MMS quite a lot as well, very good for finding avant garde weirdness...

 

Right on! Yeah Tietchens just put out a new one and it's available at MMS right now. I picked up the Teils Teils (I think that's what it is titled) vinyl release from Tietchens about two months ago and still haven't listened to it yet, I'm waiting for a special occasion. The Aleph-1 release by Carsten Nicolai(sp?) is very good but very repetitive but very good.:) So Stoppit what are some things that you would recommend(sp?, I hate this word and no dictionary around hehe;) from MMS? I really love Creel Pone (sold at MMS), I picked up a Hecker tape that's quite good(not a Joyrex joke) and some other things at MMS, mostly Creel Pone stuff though.

Yeah the Creel Pones are great, i've got about 6 or 7..the Jacques Lejeune 'Blanche Neige' one is really good, as are the 2 Tod Dockstader releases. If you haven't checked out Dockstader, that would definitely be a recommendation - MMS usually has most of his stuff in stock - get Quatermass and Apocalypse (both from the 60s) and the 3 'Aerial' CDs (which are all post-2000..he's still going aged 70 something). I recently got the Francisco Lopez 10CD boxset 'Nowhere' which is very cool musique concrete/drone/noise stuff (the boxset was expensive though). MMS is great for vintage electronic music (like the Dockstader releases I mentioned, and the Creel Pones). If you're interested in those, you might want to check out Dick Raaijmakers; there's a really good 3CD set which compiles all his works under his own name, and also 'Popular Electronics', which has all his releases under his Kid Baltan alias, as well as lots of other music by dutch electronic pioneers. Both those compilations are on Basta. Another recommendation would be the Bernard Parmegiani 12CD boxset, which is amazing (although I got my copy from INA grm in France, as it was cheaper...I also just got the Luc Ferrari complete electronic works 10CD boxset from INA..looking foward to listening to that one). There's also a five CD boxset 'Archives GRM' (I'm a sucker for nice boxsets, as you may have realised), which compiles a lot of unreleased tracks by french musique concrete artists such as Parmegiani, Ferrari, Pierre Henry, Pierre Schaeffer etc... I think MMS is stocking all of these. Also, Keith Fullerton Whitman's own music is worth checking out, and MMS is obviously the best place to get that from.

I'm definitely going to get some more Asmus Tietchens, that's next on my list....

I've hijacked this thread now by talking about lots of artists from the 50s and 60s, rather than the future of electronic music...whoops.

  On 7/28/2009 at 11:43 PM, Stoppit said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:50 PM, narkeworld said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:43 PM, Stoppit said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 9:19 PM, narkeworld said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 8:39 PM, Awepittance said:

what happened to the days when WATMM was into electronic artists who weren't talked about all over the place r was there even an era where watmm openly talked about and appreciated smaller bands, those who do not appear in pitchfork.

 

I said Asmus Tietchens, if that's not good enough than;) I don't know what is. Well there is also Gunter Muller, B12, The Black Dog, all the cool avant garde stuff that is sold at Forced Exposure and MMS (Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman's webstore), Monolake is good, Hardwax records is really, really good, they sell very good electronic music, also the store DS2 (along with Hardwax) in England sells the the best techno is the world, Microsuoni is a good store, new Hecker releases are probably good, Raster-Noton is good, as well as 12k, the NHK release on Raster-Noton is really, really good. Sandwell District is a wicked techno label that puts out new stuff. A lot going on in the world.

 

I agree with everything you said here. I've only got Gamma Menge by Asmus Tietchens, but it's really good! I need to get more by him. Also agree with Raster Noton and Monolake. I buy from MMS quite a lot as well, very good for finding avant garde weirdness...

 

Right on! Yeah Tietchens just put out a new one and it's available at MMS right now. I picked up the Teils Teils (I think that's what it is titled) vinyl release from Tietchens about two months ago and still haven't listened to it yet, I'm waiting for a special occasion. The Aleph-1 release by Carsten Nicolai(sp?) is very good but very repetitive but very good.:) So Stoppit what are some things that you would recommend(sp?, I hate this word and no dictionary around hehe;) from MMS? I really love Creel Pone (sold at MMS), I picked up a Hecker tape that's quite good(not a Joyrex joke) and some other things at MMS, mostly Creel Pone stuff though.

 

Yeah the Creel Pones are great, i've got about 6 or 7..the Jacques Lejeune 'Blanche Neige' one is really good, as are the 2 Tod Dockstader releases. If you haven't checked out Dockstader, that would definitely be a recommendation - MMS usually has most of his stuff in stock - get Quatermass and Apocalypse (both from the 60s) and the 3 'Aerial' CDs (which are all post-2000..he's still going aged 70 something). I recently got the Francisco Lopez 10CD boxset 'Nowhere' which is very cool musique concrete/drone/noise stuff (the boxset was expensive though). MMS is great for vintage electronic music (like the Dockstader releases I mentioned, and the Creel Pones). If you're interested in those, you might want to check out Dick Raaijmakers; there's a really good 3CD set which compiles all his works under his own name, and also 'Popular Electronics', which has all his releases under his Kid Baltan alias, as well as lots of other music by dutch electronic pioneers. Both those compilations are on Basta. Another recommendation would be the Bernard Parmegiani 12CD boxset, which is amazing (although I got my copy from INA grm in France, as it was cheaper...I also just got the Luc Ferrari complete electronic works 10CD boxset from INA..looking foward to listening to that one). There's also a five CD boxset 'Archives GRM' (I'm a sucker for nice boxsets, as you may have realised), which compiles a lot of unreleased tracks by french musique concrete artists such as Parmegiani, Ferrari, Pierre Henry, Pierre Schaeffer etc... I think MMS is stocking all of these. Also, Keith Fullerton Whitman's own music is worth checking out, and MMS is obviously the best place to get that from.

 

I'm definitely going to get some more Asmus Tietchens, that's next on my list....

 

I've hijacked this thread now by talking about lots of artists from the 50s and 60s, rather than the future of electronic music...whoops.

There is a WDR compilation at MMS I want, I'm poor right now so I'll have to wait. Do you have this WDR comp Stoppit? It's all the pure electronic music from Germany in the 50's not the concrete stuff from France. I remember an article/interview with Autechre in Grooves magazine where, I think, Sean says that they were really into synthesis circa Confield. This synthesis idea really inspired me, I owned stuff from Xenakis, Bayle and Stockhausen before this statement was made but it had concrete elements in it. When Sean Booth said "all synthesis" something clicked and I really liked that idea so the WDR compilation at MMS must be wicked, I like to think. Oh yeah Curtis Roads works in this way, the all synthesis method, and he's another artist/theorist making really good stuff recently his 'Point, Line, Cloud' is great. More Computer music that is good would be the recent stuff by Cristioan Vogel. Deepex, you should check out the relese 'The Never Engine', it's great, it's all computer music made with the Kyma(sp?) music production system. At least my friend says it's all made with Kyma, he talked to Cristian at a recent show about Kyma. Btw this/my friend Gerald Wenzel makes good computer music with Csound (the 'Prairie Program' release and midi hardware for his release 'Hollow Way') and had releases on Phthalo, check out that stuff, it's good, imo.

I don't have the WDR compilation, but it sounds like it might be similar to the Dick Raaijmakers/Popular Electronics boxsets, which are pure electronic music from Holland in the 50s, so I'll check it out, thanks!

  On 7/29/2009 at 12:21 AM, Stoppit said:

I don't have the WDR compilation, but it sounds like it might be similar to the Dick Raaijmakers/Popular Electronics boxsets, which are pure electronic music from Holland in the 50s, so I'll check it out, thanks!

That WDR comp. is on bvhaast, just so you know.

  On 7/27/2009 at 10:40 PM, inteeliguntdesign said:

flying lotus and clark are the best new electronic artists i know of. i'd choose flying lotus but his tracks are too polished sometimes. i really want to include drexciya though, but you know, not currently releasing. well not stinson at least.

I just don't think you can say JUST Flying Lotus is the best as of now because he's part of a whole movement, and Hudson Mohawke is on Warp too.

highly recommend blevin blectum

check them out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PloC8ixEoHQ

  On 7/28/2009 at 3:30 AM, Kcinsu said:

some one please link me to a youtube video, or something of your favorite clark song. I am just not in to him, and i want to hear what you think is his best.

Ceramics is the bomb EP is genius!

1. The Gavel

2. Slow Spines

5. Shonny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWzp3Lg7DE

6. Rob Lee

That's all i could find... these are the best tracks anyways

  On 7/28/2009 at 5:43 PM, Hautlle said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 5:23 PM, tauboo said:

recent-ish idmy idm i like more than Clark: Lusine, Bitstream, Arovane, Ilkae, Mr. 76ix, Ochre, Abfahrt Hinwil/Point 7, Nautilis, uhh

 

has nautilis even done anything recently?

Not since like 2005/6...at least not officially released.

Whoever mentioned Alva Noto, def def agree, i haven't heard Xerrox2 yet..anyone got any opinions on that?

Boxcutter is doing some really good stuff.

And not to big up watmm too much, but robbie's label consistently puts out interesting releases.

plus wisp and all that.

Ceephax wins

Awepittance. Hit me with some of these non-Pitchfork electronic artists you speak of who are decent.

  On 7/28/2009 at 4:51 PM, playbynumbers said:

maybe; bitstream, monolake (though are they really idm? i guess not), freescha, certain artists on ai records (eoc, datassette), claro intelecto (though again, maybe not idm), mr 76ix, apparat ...

I haven't heard any of these people. I'd cream my pants if you had time to throw together & MegaUpload a mix for me and PM or post it in the WATMMixes subforum :heart: :heart: :heart:

El edito: Same goes for anyone else who has time and luvs 4 encey!

  On 7/29/2009 at 5:43 PM, encey said:

  On 7/28/2009 at 4:51 PM, playbynumbers said:

maybe; bitstream, monolake (though are they really idm? i guess not), freescha, certain artists on ai records (eoc, datassette), claro intelecto (though again, maybe not idm), mr 76ix, apparat ...

I haven't heard any of these people. I'd cream my pants if you had time to throw together & MegaUpload a mix for me and PM or post it in the WATMMixes subforum :heart: :heart: :heart:

 

El edito: Same goes for anyone else who has time and luvs 4 encey!

i made a mix with bitstream, monolake and apparat in it, shall i post it

edit: or do you mean a mix like a collection of tracks rather than a mix mix

A mix mix is even better yo!

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